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by surprise_i'm_armed
Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:36 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Houston robbery video-Would you draw & shoot?
Replies: 30
Views: 3950

Re: Houston robbery video-Would you draw & shoot?

Thank you to everyone who watched the video and responded with
their strategic thinking.

Although I have not taken any defensive handgun courses, I believe that
at the time they moved me away from the register and they forgot about
me for a few seconds I would draw and shoot. If I got shot, at least I would
have done so while I was putting JHP's downrange to some robbing scum.

People who rob others many times have a drug problem and a morality
deficit. These are not people to whom you can give the benefit of the
doubt.
by surprise_i'm_armed
Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:38 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Houston robbery video-Would you draw & shoot?
Replies: 30
Views: 3950

Houston robbery video-Would you draw & shoot?

Let's get a discussion started on tactics to use during a particular robbery.

First of all, fire up another Internet session besides the one on which you
are reading TexasCHLForum.com.

Watch this video of a gang robbing a convenience store on Houston's
North Freeway on 3/17/09, at 1045 PM. By the way, there is rash of
such robberies going on. Perhaps these guys are the perps in them.

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If you were the customer in the cowboy hat, had your CHL, and your gun
on you, what would you do?

It takes a few seconds for the perps to run through the door. It seems that
Perps 1 and 3 through the entry have semi-auto handguns. The middle guy
just seems to have his hands in his pockets.

If the customer drew right away, he might be shot since they are running up
to him. It's hard to draw on a drawn gun.

But then they shoo him away from the counter, about 20 feet from the register.
Then might be time to draw and start firing but here's the problems, IMHO:
1. He has limited cover, just the low counter. Plus it looks like the typical
cluttered C-store, obstructing sight lines.
2. If the customer opened up on the bad guys, he risks hitting the clerk as
well, who is standing in the same general area.
3. If he is a revolver man he has to strike each perp only twice before going
for his speed loader. Remember - he is going against at least 2 semi-auto's.
4. They appear to be wearing bulky cold weather gear so the CHL's ammo would
have to have good penetration power.
5. Would it be best to simply chase them out the door and engage them in
the parking lot?
6. We can watch the video at our leisure and we know the perps did not
shoot either the clerk or the customer, but they could have.

Comments from the peanut gallery are now encouraged.

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