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1s1k52 wrote:I will keep that in mind. For someone that has never really shot though. I am sure the trigger is fine. What did you not like about it? how do you compare it to Glock or can you?

The stock M&P trigger was long, relatively heavy, and definitely not smooth. Also a vague and long reset.

With the Apex parts, there is still a long takeup, but it's very light. The trigger is now much lighter, clean/crisp break, little overtravrl, and a short, distinct reset.

I carry an S&W M&P; like the pistol, hated the stock trigger. Apex Tactical's trigger kit was the BOMB - highly recommended.

1s1k52 wrote:Hey man your preaching to the choir.

So held an SR9c and a M&P9c she didn't even hesitate on wanting the s&w. Can't say I blame her . I long debated that before m glock. I don't regret my purchase ,but I will own an m&p someday. Hard to say with dry fire but the trigger seemed a lot better too.

She's keeps telling me she has no desire to carry. We will see :)

I tell people that the ultimate, best'est' safety is the one between your ears. And that the four rules of gun safety is your new religion. Add a good holster into the mix, and you don't need no stinkin' manual safety!

My first CHL instructor (in '95) was a rather young, brash kid. When I asked him during a break in the class about carrying with one in the chamber, he asked me to pantomime holding my pistol in front of me, and then to reach out with my left hand to rack the slide. When I did, he grabbed my left wrist with his left hand, preventing me from racking the slide, and feigned drawing his own pistol from 4:00 and held 'it' (his index finger) to my head. It was a little physical and in-your-face on his part (especially with his smug expression), but it certainly got the message across.

I watched gas station video of two punks trying to mug a guy who was pumping gas. He dove back into his car to fetch his pistol from the center console. They were pulling his legs, trying to drag him out of the car, and he had to hang onto the steering wheel with one hand while fumbling to get a grip on his pistol with the other hand. Ask him if he thinks having an empty chamber is a good idea...

1s1k52 wrote:I agree completely. She doesnt not like the idea that my glock has no safety not to mention every sales person keeps telling her she needs something with a safety. Last night my dad told her that too and he said one shouldn't be in the chamber!! He was a marine for 20 years too!! I just told them that a gun is no good unloaded.

If I had a better pinky extension she would have shot my G27. I have a +1 pierce. I will never own one again. Hoping to get to a gun store today just to look atleast.

1s1k52 wrote:She asked what mine was and if they make something like mine but with a safety. So as of now I am thinking M&P with thumb safety no mag safety built in laser.

Congratulations on such a successful outing! Great to hear.

Everyone has to settle on what they'll be able to live with, emotionally/comfort-wise. Personally, before I were to agree on a pistol w. manual safety for my wife, I'd have her handle a non-safety pistol **with a good holster** (I use a Crossbreed w. an M&P .40). I think of the holster **as the safety** (like a muzzle for a dog). Having an additional lever to flip is superfluous if the pistol lives in a good holster w. strong retention. While enthusiasts who practice their 1911 draw stroke have no problem w. the extra step of the thumb safety, a new female shooter might not put in the same time to build the muscle memory.

Just my $0.02.

stroguy wrote:I then contacted a lady CHL instructor at CC for a one hour familiarization class, one-on-one feminine day at the range....

I think giving her that afternoon away from me was the best bet.

You're a wise man, sir

You should let us know your location - someone with a .22 pistol might be willing to loan it to you.