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by LaUser
Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:22 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Out of State Retired LEO needs annual qualification
Replies: 10
Views: 2098

Re: Out of State Retired LEO received TX proficiency card

This year I've been waiting about 5 weeks. I made two calls to TCLEOSE and been told both times that it had been issued and was being put in the mail that day. After a third call, a supervisor is investigating and has promised to call me today to let me know what happened and hopefully to actually get it on the way to me. Although I allowed what I thought was plenty of time for processing, next year I'll allow even more.
I hope it gets to you soon.
if you're ever involved in an incident with a weapon type you didn't qualify with, you could technically be charged with unlawfully carrying that gun - a complication is best avoided.
I have no intention of carrying any type other than what I qualified with. I do intend to go back and qualify with a revolver, ammo permitting.

Thanks again for all your advise and help.
by LaUser
Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:28 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Out of State Retired LEO needs annual qualification
Replies: 10
Views: 2098

Re: Out of State Retired LEO received Proficienty Card

I qualified on March 14, 2009 and I received my "Retired Officer Firearms Proficiency" card from the Texas Commission on Law Enforcement Officer Standards and Education yesterday, April 4. It is good for one year, March 14, 2010.

The State of Texas :txflag: officially sanctioned my annual firearms qualification. However, no where does it state what I qualified with, revolver of pistol. I qualified with a SIG P220 .45 ACP. I will be glad to go back and qualify with my S&W .357 revolver, but I must get some ammo first. :lol:
by LaUser
Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:55 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Out of State Retired LEO needs annual qualification
Replies: 10
Views: 2098

Re: Out of State Retired LEO needs annual qualificatoin

Thanks to everyone for their replies, especially Excalibur.

The steps were:
(1) downloaded the form http://www.tcleose.state.tx.us/FormsApp ... _30_08.doc and fill it out.
(2) copy of my credentials notarized. My bank did it free.
(3) shot the course, after passing it get the Certificate of Firearms Proficiency notarized
(4) signed the sworn affidavit that is page two of the document above and had it notarized.
(5) two (2) color passport photos made at Walgreens for $7.99 + tax. Sign the back of both. Only need one (1).
(6) obtained a money order for $25.00
(7) I sent it all in.

I had a question about the required certified or notarized copy of my credentials so I called TCLEOSE. Gloria was very helpful and explained that get a xerox copy of the credentials notarized.

I shot the course at Schaefer Training Academy, Dale, TX . Tom Schaefer is a retired APD Sergeant and he notarized the documents.

Now I have a 3 to 6 week wait. :woohoo
by LaUser
Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:43 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Out of State Retired LEO needs annual qualification
Replies: 10
Views: 2098

Re: Out of State Retired LEO needs annual qualificatoin

Ed, Steve,

Thanks for the message and replies. It is just what I was looking for.
Steve, I sent you an email.

:tiphat:
by LaUser
Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:34 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Out of State Retired LEO needs annual qualification
Replies: 10
Views: 2098

Out of State Retired LEO needs annual qualification

I am a retired deputy sheriff from out of state living in Austin. The Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act (LEOSA) is a United States federal law, enacted in 2004, that allows two classes of persons -- the "qualified law enforcement officer" and the "qualified retired law enforcement officer" -- to carry a concealed firearm in any jurisdiction in the United States, regardless of any state or local law to the contrary, with certain exceptions.

In order to be considered a "qualified retired law enforcement officer," one must be a person who "(1) retired in good standing from service with a public agency as a law enforcement officer, other than for reasons of mental instability; (2) before such retirement, was authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of, or the incarceration of any person for, any violation of law, and had statutory powers of arrest; (3)(A) before such retirement, was regularly employed as a law enforcement officer for an aggregate of 15 years or more; or (B) retired from service with such agency, after completing any applicable probationary period of such service, due to a service-connected disability, as determined by such agency; (4) has a non-forfeitable right to benefits under the retirement plan of the agency; (5) during the most recent 12-month period, has met, at the expense of the individual, the State's standards for training and qualification for active law enforcement officers to carry firearms . . ."

I meet all these qualifications except number 5. I have not been able to find a place to qualify with my pistol. The Austin PD range is out of the question since I am not a retired APD officer. Returning to my agency yearly is not an option. I found the Austin PD Retired Officers Association web site, http://www.aproa.org/ who recommended using Schaefer Training Academy in Dale, Texas to qualify. I emailed Tom Schaefer but I have received no reply. I called and got his answering machine.

Is there any placed where I can meet the annual qualification? :hurry:

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