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Here's a question... Let's say that you witness one of these events in progress and decide to intervene. (I'm not saying it's a good idea - just what-if.) It's not worth shooting the kid over a pair of jeans, so you tackle him and attempt to detain him. I believe you'd be within the law to do so - using non-lethal force to prevent theft. Most likely, his buddies are going to swarm on you, attacking you in a 10-on-1 beating. Fearing for your life, you draw and fire on the attackers. Would that be A) justified because of the disparity of force or B) unjustified because you initiated the confrontation by trying to detain the kid? I think we can all agree it would be a bad situation, but I'm curious as to the legal considerations.