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by TrueFlog
Mon May 24, 2021 6:00 pm
Forum: General Legislative Discussions
Topic: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now
Replies: 387
Views: 119723

Re: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now

ScottDLS wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 4:04 pm
TrueFlog wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 3:54 pm If I'm reading this correctly, 30.06 and 30.07 signs do not apply to unlicensed carry. Is that right? That means that unlicensed Texas will be able to carry in tens of thousands of locations that are currently off-limits to license holders due to 30.06 and 30.07 signs. That seems kind of backwards...
I mentioned above that 30.06/30.07 only apply to carry "under the authority of your LTC". If a location (after 9/1) doesn't post a 30.05, but for some reason only a 30.06/7 then you could carry past the signs just like an unlicensed carrier. Reason being you don't need the authority of your LTC to carry, so therefore you're not (carrying under its authority). If this were not the case then currently, a peace officer who happened to have a LTC couldn't carry past a sign either. If one was not convinced by that, one could leave their LTC in the car, as technically you can't carry (under LTC authority) if you are not also carrying the LTC itself.
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I hope that you're correct. However, I'm hesitant to take legal advice from a stranger on the Internet. Has this concept of when someone is or not carrying "under the authority of their LTC" been discussed on this board before? I'd be curious to see what opinions others have offered and whether there's any broad consensus on this idea.
by TrueFlog
Mon May 24, 2021 3:54 pm
Forum: General Legislative Discussions
Topic: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now
Replies: 387
Views: 119723

Re: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now

If I'm reading this correctly, 30.06 and 30.07 signs do not apply to unlicensed carry. Is that right? That means that unlicensed Texas will be able to carry in tens of thousands of locations that are currently off-limits to license holders due to 30.06 and 30.07 signs. That seems kind of backwards...
by TrueFlog
Sun May 23, 2021 9:46 pm
Forum: General Legislative Discussions
Topic: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now
Replies: 387
Views: 119723

Re: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now

Papa_Tiger wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 7:38 pm
TrueFlog wrote: Sun May 23, 2021 7:31 pm
Sections 46.03(a) (7), (11), and (13) do not apply
to license holders, and (7) is the prohibition against carrying in a 51% establishment. Does that mean that 51% bars will be removed from the list of off-limits places?
No. If they properly post 30.06/7 or the 51% sign it is still an off-limits location:
HB 1927 CC Report - Texas Penal Code 46.15 wrote: (p) Sections 46.03(a) (7), (11), and (13) do not apply if the actor:
(1) carries a handgun on the premises or other property, as applicable;
(2) holds a license to carry a handgun issued under Sub chapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code; and
(3) was not given effective notice under Section 30.06 or 30. 07 of this code or Section 411. 204, Government Code, as applicable.
Section 411.204 Government Code is the 51% sign.
Ah, I started getting excited and stopped reading after the part about 30.06 and 30.07. I should've read the rest of that line and looked up Section 411.204.
by TrueFlog
Sun May 23, 2021 7:31 pm
Forum: General Legislative Discussions
Topic: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now
Replies: 387
Views: 119723

Re: HB 1927 on the Senate floor now

Sections 46.03(a) (7), (11), and (13) do not apply
to license holders, and (7) is the prohibition against carrying in a 51% establishment. Does that mean that 51% bars will be removed from the list of off-limits places?

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