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Mike, please see my post above yours. I said John Woods to make the point that this is an internet board that anyone can read or register for. My point being, anything Charles tells you or I, he might as well be telling to Woods as well, because anyone can read it. Wasn't trying to insult a new member in any way.

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I don't who is John Woods?
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John Woods is a survivor of the Virginia Tech incident. He is now a student at that school in austin, and leading the charge against campus carry for the brady campaign.

I wasn't trying to actually accuse you of anything, just pointing out that anything you or I can read, they can too.

M2K wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:Our newly joined members who have focused on this thread and bill need to look at my earlier post. I'm not saying SB905 is a good bill; I'm asking people to support the Kleinschmidt amendment to SB905. As many have said, there is a reason for this but I can't say at this time.

Chas.

I've read your earlier posts and most everything on this board for the last few years. It is one of the better boards on the internet consisting of a very intelligent membership. I’m usually not a “joiner” but I joined this board because I just couldn't stand the implied arrogance and elitism of this bill and the Kleinschmidt amendment.

Why should I accept your hidden reason at face value?

Mike

Then don't accept it. Don't call in support. But you've stated you lurked here for several years. Do you think antis don't watch to see what were up to? Why show our hand? Charles has proven time and time again to have the interests of all Texas chls as his guiding principles. You have 3 posts. For all we know you're John woods. Respectfully, he has nothing to prove to you.

ETA: Welcome to the forum. I hope you will post more.

I may not like the fact that Charles can't just tell us all the plans to get things done, but since this is an open forum that anyone can read, letting the antis read our cards would only make all of our lives harder. For now, I'm willing to trust that backing this amendment will help CHLs in Texas in some way. If you don't feel that it will, by all means, feel free to not support it, or even phone in opposition to the measure. But don't ask us to reveal our cards to our enemies. That won't help anyone.

CWOOD wrote: An all-or-nothing approach is not going to win us much.
By getting more and more CHLs into more and more places, allows us to demonstrate that we are not a threat to the public safety. That allows us to take more and more territory.
Eventually I'd like to see any adult who can legally own a firearm be able to legally carry those firearms, concealed or openly, with no need for a government issued license, just about anywhere a LEO may carry his firearms. But that ain't gonna happen this session. Baby steps will get us there.

As mgood said, the all or nothing approach will only get us a whole lot of 'nothing ' and a rare and tiny amount of 'all'. If we had taken that approach in 1995, we would still be behind California on this issue...as well as a lot of other states which have followed our lead on concealed carry.

Again, in the 1995 bill, if we had not accepted the carry restrictions in churches, govt. meetings, hospitals, and all the other locations, IT WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ENACTED. Again, we would still be behind California.

Just felt like quoting this again because it is so true. Those of us on the website who carry daily and understand what the Founders meant by the 2nd amendment sometimes have a hard time realizing other people, even though they are wrong, don't share our views. Is it wrong that we have to take a class, pay a tax, and be regulated by the state? Absolutely. Does more than 5 or 10% of the population agree? I doubt it.

I'm one of the young guys on here (24), but it is important to note that even I am OLDER than the CHL program in Texas. It has taken a lot of hard work by a lot of people to get to where we are. We've chipped away at the infringements we have placed upon us. And guess what? EVERY TIME that we take just a little bit more away, the ninnies scream and moan about mass murders, blood in the streets, etc etc....and EVERY SINGLE TIME we prove them wrong. This means that as long as we keep working hard, eventually we can get to Constitutional Carry. I would love to be able to tell my grandkids "Can you imagine when I was young that I had to pay the state to ensure my right to carry?" and have them be amazed by the very idea.

I am NOT one of those who would benefit directly from this. Heck, my first renewal isn't until 2013. BUT, I will support this amendment as a "foot in the door" to continue to reduce restrictions on our natural rights by the state. I think we are ALL going to benefit from this indirectly, and in a few years have even less restrictions on us ALL...because we've proven the ninnies wrong AGAIN!

If you constantly go for nothing but it ALL, you wind up with a lot of NOTHING.

Just my .02 on the matter.

Emailed support today. Fellas, I know it's not perfect but it's an incremental step towards what we want... Constitutional carry!