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Out of all the reports (not police reports) and pictures I have seen I have yet to see a gun or even gun cases close to one of the people that were killed. Most seemed to actually be on their bike riding away or starting to ride away. Reports also show that cameras inside dont actually catch the shooting but it can be heard when it starts and within 2 mins from when it started FBI and ATF with assault rifles are seen entering Twin Peaks on camera, I understand they were suppose to be around there already in hiding waiting but really less than 2 mins? Now don't get me wrong I'm not anti cop (have close friends and family that are HPD), nor am I anti biker as mentioned I have known many as far back as from a really young kid as we rented a place to the head of Texas Chapter back in late 60's to early 80's. Just what has come out and all just seems odd somewhat. Also noticed the one mod mention lawsuits, I myself would consider suing Waco PD and maybe FBI and ATF if possible. They say they knew and had word something was gonna happen, why not show up in force to start with? Have plenty of officers in uniform on site or even marked cars whatever to keep it from happening, not waiting till it happens risking citizens lives. Honestly we will probably never know exactly what happened as I don't trust FBI or ATF as they done been shown in past not to be honest, but I shouldn't really say that cause I'm not really one to cast an entire group of people just cause of some bad apples.


edited: Also seen a report that stated the weapon count which is suppose to be 118 handguns, 1 AK47. Don't remember the knife and pipe / chain count. But the report also stated that many of the handguns and the AK47 were found in vehicles in the parking lot.

Well I have known and still know many Bandidos. To group them all into "they are bad" group is not right. Almost like saying NFL and NBA are thug gang members. There are some very good folks along with some very bad folks also. I don't know as I haven't talked to any of them on the matter but to me the whole ordeal just has a bad vibe and fishy smell to it, almost as if a set up deal. We all know media reports get most things wrong all the time and rush to the story lines. So it could be months before really know most true facts, if true then cause of the way things get spun. I still think there is way more to the story then is getting aired out.