Fangs,Fangs wrote:Eh, part of me smiled a little on the inside.
I've seen LEOs make up stuff, "lose" 3 (THREE!!!) videos of the same incident, search a CHL's car for his gun because he didn't give them his CHL since he wasn't carrying, push into apartments and houses where a few (think 5) of us legally aged people were drinking because they "thought they smelled illegal drugs" (not a chance on earth) after they "thought they heard a party", etc. I've been told I could be taken to jail for speeding 10 over on an empty highway with no one else in the car. Pretty sure they'd have a hard time classifying that as reckless endangerment or whatever.
I was at a party that got busted and asked the officers if I could stay (after they grabbed the obvious minors and told the rest of us we could leave) to find my 21-year-old roommate so he wouldn't try to drive home drunk. The officer told me to go stand in a certain spot. While standing there I was asked for my ID, which I handed over. Then when they told me to move inside I noticed the officer writing me an MIP. I was 17, in college, and had never had a sip of alcohol at that point in my life. Turns out that when I stood where the officer directed me to stand, I was within 50 feet of the kegs. Let's ignore the fact that it's the wee hours of the morning and that if I was going to drink that night I would have already started. Also, thinking back, I don't think I'd been within 50 feet due to the size of the crowd all night until I was directed to stand there. The officer issuing the ticket also refused to give me a breathalyzer (MIP, not MIC ), which I begged for. I figured that just because the LEO was an idiot (Yeah, I understand he was within his job description to write me a ticket. Was it his best choice as far as discretion goes? No) didn't mean that I wouldn't have a good case when I got to the judge.
Fortunately another officer took up my cause, breath tested me (after asking me 5 times if I was sure I wanted to), and convinced his fellow LEO to write me an MIP warning.
Before you tell me that I shouldn't have been there, I was happily playing Halo at a friend's and next thing I knew there were 2 fraternities several sororities and 3 kegs outside. And a pool. And sororities. In a pool. And I had no idea there was a proximity law on kegs. The officer didn't think my "I'm within 50 feet of the gun on your hip, can I have it back?" comment was nearly as funny as all the drunk kids getting tickets did.
I've had a cop try to sell me X tabs. In uniform. I knew the guy pretty well, and he wasn't trying to bust me. He'd gotten them off some kids and was running a pretty profitable, tax free business on the side.
I've been told that I could be arrested for not having ID on me. In my board shorts. On the river. Not drinking.
My friend got pulled over, arrested, and had his bike towed (just WRONG, IMHO. Scratched it all to ... scratch), only to have the police realize that his bike has custom purple flames on a black background, and the bike they were looking for was white.
Had a friend pulled over because "his tire tread was too low". Granted, this is the reason on the report after they found out he had an expired DL. I doubt the officer noticed it at 70mph on the highway.
My mom's been pulled over for allegedly doing 120mph in her minivan. It tops out at 95, trust me. My mom drives like a grandma too.
On the other hand, I have had some great LEO encounters. The LEO sticking up for me at that party left a lasting impression that there are good ones out there.
I have never had a bad LEO encounter while I'm the driver, though several have politely given me the tickets I deserved. I wouldn't consider the offhand "I could have taken you to jail for this" comment a bad encounter. I just knew he was wrong, as I thanked him for his mercy.
The few officers I've gotten to know from my jobs were all great people, until you threw a beer bottle at their head. Which I did witness. Along with the tasering that followed.
Not trying to rag on LEOs, but I have seen some funky things. I also know some funky people from school who are now LEOs.
This is a great post/reply.
This encapsulates my experiences as well (though I think your experiences are more recent than mine) and I think
gives good examples of why so many people mis-trust law enforcement.
Thanks