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zatoman wrote:Just learned from another post that George Bush park in Houston (basically a flood control area controlled by the Corps of Engineers) is probably off limits to carrying. It's ironic that the largest shooting range in Houston is located in that park. I agree with the OP. WAY too many rules.

The range of which you speak is (or at least was) actually the largest outdoor range inside a city's limits in the United States, or so I'm told. The lease on that range has been in place for some 40+ years as I understand.

Admittedly the COE places some rather strict regulations around the use of the range, but nothing unreasonable, enforcement is practical, and they have been good partners to the club.

So yes, the irony is somewhat thick, and suggests that the basic prohibition around COE land, while unquestioned, can and could be modified in the same way as national park regulations have been.

rotor wrote:

cbunt1 wrote:It does feel a bit overwhelming at first. I remember the constant wondering about whether I was "OK" to carry.

This is oversimplifying, but frankly the places you can't carry are few enough to be an exception rather than the rule.

For most people, certain restaurants/bars, picking up the kids at school, going to the post office, and renewing the tags on your car are the most common "Maybe" questions.

Post Office is a no-go -- Federal Property
Car tags/title -- MAY be in a building that's off-limits (Lots of questions there) due to courtrooms or offices
Picking up the kids/grandkids at school -- Generally fine as long as you're staying in your car.
Restaurants: As long as it's not a 51% location, and it's not posted with 30.06 or 30.07, it's fine.

This is a GROSS oversimplification, but I find that it covers 80% of the "oh really? I can do that?" for the brand new carrier.

As always, this forum is a great resource for those questions.

I thought you were just restricted from the buildings. Never heard that you had to stay in your car. Unless they had a school activity going on in parking lot you should be able to carry, correct?

Generally, yes. I mention staying in the car because you're definitely good there.

ScottDLS wrote:And sorry to OP for confusing the issue further. Joel's summary was very good...I just like to see myself type...

Agreed -- Joel covered it far better than I did!

I know it's confusing -- heck, I teach it, and it can be confusing when you get into the intricacies of it. That's why I like to summarize it as best as possible!

It does feel a bit overwhelming at first. I remember the constant wondering about whether I was "OK" to carry.

This is oversimplifying, but frankly the places you can't carry are few enough to be an exception rather than the rule.

For most people, certain restaurants/bars, picking up the kids at school, going to the post office, and renewing the tags on your car are the most common "Maybe" questions.

Post Office is a no-go -- Federal Property
Car tags/title -- MAY be in a building that's off-limits (Lots of questions there) due to courtrooms or offices
Picking up the kids/grandkids at school -- Generally fine as long as you're staying in your car.
Restaurants: As long as it's not a 51% location, and it's not posted with 30.06 or 30.07, it's fine.

This is a GROSS oversimplification, but I find that it covers 80% of the "oh really? I can do that?" for the brand new carrier.

As always, this forum is a great resource for those questions.