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by cbunt1
Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:53 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: My Employer WANTS TO ALLOW Carry........
Replies: 22
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Re: My Employer WANTS TO ALLOW Carry........

hazmat wrote:

Thank you. This mirrors what i've come up with so far.

Yes, we have many customers in the chemical, petro-chemical and refining business. Our employee handbook would address this, something to the effect "although an employee who is LTC may do so in company owned vehicles, it is the employees responsibility to not violate a customers policies in regards to weapons on their property. It will be the employees responsibility to secure his or her weapon in a maner that onlyhe or she has access to it, prior to traveling to a customer facility".....something like that.

Semper Fi!
-Mikie
I really think the concerns, with few exceptions, are more policy-oriented than actual breach of law. From a practical aspect, It'd come down to where I'm picking up and delivering than anything. The inbound inspection/search process at some Dow Chemical plants was actually more invasive than the search process I've been through making deliveries to prisons.

My dog was always allowed at the prisons as long as she stayed in the truck...Dow Chemical wanted her to stay at the guard shack. Fortunately, she was a people-lover, and it was usually a treat for her when she got to hang with new folks.

I can remember some locations providing me a lockbox/safe-deposit box for "contraband" items, but I really can't remember which ones. In those situations, I would be handed a lockbox, and allowed to fill it, lock it, and store it in their vault...this was for all sorts of things that might not be allowed on a plant (certain tools, flares, certain flammables, etc.) but I'm talking about explosives plants and facilities here.

One non-trucking company I worked for had a simple weapons policy to the effect of "No weapons are allowed except as specifically authorized by local, state or federal law.) I always thought that was a good approach...it states an intent, without violating any legal exceptions. I always took it to mean "The only people who can carry weapons here already know who you are."
by cbunt1
Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:16 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: My Employer WANTS TO ALLOW Carry........
Replies: 22
Views: 4026

Re: My Employer WANTS TO ALLOW Carry........

Federal Motor Carrier Vehicle Safety Standards, part 49 would be the reference for law related to commercial vehicles and drivers.

In years past (some 20 years go), part 49 specifically prohibited firearms or weapons in a CMV. I remember this because I was an OTR driver back in the early/mid '90s, and studied those regulations in detail, so I would know what I could and couldn't get away with around self-protection when I was in such fine places as Kansas City KS, and East St. Louis, IL.

When I ran a hot-shot truck back from 2002-2005 or so, I again picked up part 49 and studied it end-to-end. At that time, I could find no regulations specific to firearms or weapons on CMV's. I can vouch for the fact that I never had any issues at scale houses with a pistol on the truck carried according to the general regulations of whatever state I was in.

To my knowledge, there are no Federal or UCC regulations that would proscribe otherwise legal carry, provided you're not in violation of any other (generic) regulations.

In other words, just because you're in a CMV doesn't create a bar to carry anymore.

Now, I've been in some plants and facilities that could present an issue--but it'd only be typical private property issues.

As a hotshot owner/operator, I had more problems over having a Labrador on the truck than a Colt.

I'm not a lawyer...just a guy who's been there and done that.

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