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by jmra
Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:25 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Present CHL to Border Patrol?
Replies: 75
Views: 15514

Re: Present CHL to Border Patrol?

Charlies.Contingency wrote:
jmra wrote:Seems like people draw the line at different places when surrendering their rights. I prefer to keep all of them intact. It is your right to give up your rights, but rest assured that if you so chose, they will be taken.
You are very stern about either completely refusing to be polite and comply, or you're succumbing to evil and signing away your soul. :???: I'm not giving away my rights if I so choose to be forthcoming with information. It is a loss of rights if I have no choice... Or am I missing something here?
I didn't say anything about not being polite.
by jmra
Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:52 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Present CHL to Border Patrol?
Replies: 75
Views: 15514

Re: Present CHL to Border Patrol?

Seems like people draw the line at different places when surrendering their rights. I prefer to keep all of them intact. It is your right to give up your rights, but rest assured that if you so chose, they will be taken.
by jmra
Wed Dec 17, 2014 11:53 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Present CHL to Border Patrol?
Replies: 75
Views: 15514

Re: Present CHL to Border Patrol?

cb1000rider wrote:
couzin wrote:Having worked on a border project, I got to know a bunch of officers in TX, NM, AZ, and CA. They are not evil and they are not trying to trample your rights. It is ridiculous when jerks show their behind with these provocation videos. For crying out loud just say you are a citizen and get on down the road. It ain't that hard. BTW - yes they are Federal law enforcement and as such they can search, arrest, and pursue. And - they also can apprehend someone breaking State laws (they just turn em over to local law enforcement for charge/prosecution). If stopped by any Federal Law enforcement it might be a good idea to simply tell them you are armed and have a concealed carry license. Again - it ain't that hard.

I'm with you.. it's real easy not to cause trouble. But the reality is that they're not "allowed" to do anything about someone who remains silent, but they often do...
And what's the point? Is saying "yes" to that question really enough to establish citizenship? I think not... It's not a stop about residency, it's a stop about eyeballing your vehicle and maybe slowing you down enough for a quick sniff from the drug dog - and having that happen on THIS side of the border isn't legal. America doesn't start 100 miles from the border. Sure, it catches some bad guys... And sure, it's a minor inconvenience, but we could catch a lot more bad guys if we were to trample a few more rights.

The world isn't perfect...
:iagree:
I've never been pulled over by BP. I have gone through the check points. My approach has been to lower all the windows as I approach and wear an appropriate smile. Most times I don't make it to a complete stop before being waived on, the few times I have a simple "yep" response gets us moving along. As a side note, in my 35 years of driving I don't recall ever having any type of LEO ask for consent to search my vehicle or ask if I had a firearm. Of course it's been over 30 years since my last speeding ticket.
by jmra
Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:17 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Present CHL to Border Patrol?
Replies: 75
Views: 15514

Re: Present CHL to Border Patrol?

http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/just-f ... s-overview
If you so desire you can tell them to go pound salt. I'm a little more diplomatic.

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