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philip964 wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/22/us/georgi ... Stories%29

Former Deputy indited. Not one who through flash grenade into crib, injuring baby, but deputy who lied to judge to get warrant.

CHLLady wrote:There's gotta be some responsibility taking for this, period. This whole thing needs improvement and changes for both safety of the officers and innocents inside.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

Javier730 wrote:No knock warrants should only be used when police know for sure there is a fugitive in the home they are going in, in my opinion.

In view of a rich history of judges who will sign any warrant requested, including no-knock warrants, and an equally rich history of no-knock warrants being abused and overused, no-knock warrants should be made unlawful. Arguing that people cannot be taken into custody outside of their home without greater danger to officers and the public is bogus. It's done all the time. In fact, until the increased militarization of law enforcement and the use of military style tactics and weapons, it was the method of choice.

If anyone doubts that some judges will sign any warrant requests, just consider so-called "no refusal" holidays. While I don't have a problem with arresting and prosecuting drunk drivers, I have a very big problem with a judge sitting by a phone with a pin in his or her hand ready to issue a warrant for every request submitted. Every judge involved in such unconstitutional tactics should be disbarred and prosecuted for official oppression. No end result is worth destroying constitutional protections.

Chas.

EEllis wrote:

SewTexas wrote: I've read maybe 3 pretty long articles about this case, they seem pretty thorough. If you read through them you get a few things out of them.

1. a couple of people have "blamed" the parents...."why did they have the kids there in the first place" well, let's see, their house had burned down, they had 4 kids, and starting over is expensive. You go to what family you have, seek comfort and try again.
2. They had JUST gotten there that day from the readings, maybe the day before, even if the parents were "aware of the goings on" where were they to go?
3. I'm wondering if the BG had maybe moved his operations? yes, there were apparently sales that happened and were witnessed, but then he was gone, at a 'partners' house. did he try to move the biz while the family was at his house? I would if I were him, kids can't keep quiet.

1 I spoke to that " I won't come down on the woman to hard because when the choice is homelessness or staying with a shady relative......." and understand it may be a difficult choice but she made it and it is what it is. You roll the dice and you sometimes lose. She was definitely gambling.
2 Anywhere else. Now this is hearsay from the reports but she told the cops that she locked herself and the kids up while they were dealing so she knew. It seems it was a "Family" business. I can't know what her options were but there must be more than staying at a drug house. Shelters, churches, heck even the cops will help if you ask. They might not be good options but lets not pretend she had to be there.
3 Cops said that they made a buy thru a CI at that same door they entered the home. Then went right to get a warrant and served it as soon as it was signed. The dealer was offsite yes, but it was only to make a deliveries. He wasn't "moving" anything. Hours before he had dealt Meth feet from where the baby was injured.

mamabearCali wrote:A little watchfulness a little creative thought on the part of law enforcement and many of these horrific situations can be easily avoided.

jimlongley wrote:much more tactically sound to isolate the BG instead of trying to control the whole house.

Jim Beaux wrote:Just cant imagine. Words fail me.