In that case I would strongly advise cooperation with the drill being practiced an absolutely last resort. It's is all about percentages, and I would not bet the farm on that drill being anywhere near successful. I would definitely look at other options.MoJo wrote:jmra wrote:I understand the point that I believe redhat is making. At that distance and assuming the BG has a gun your chances of survival would be much greater complying with the BGs demands. I come to this conclusion by looking at several things:Shoot_First wrote:Almost any close range scenario where the BG is armed and I don't have cover or need to move away from my family so they won't become a target. If you remain motionless as in shooting at a paper target on a square range you are likely to get shot and unlike a LEO, I don't wear a protective vest. It is not smart to stand still and trade shots with a BG, you need to get off the X to gain a tactical advantage or to get behind cover. Actual close range gun fights are not like TV where GG and BG stand still and trade shots and the BG drops after the first hit. Do a search for Gabe Suarez or shooting on the move and you will find plenty on the subject.Redhat wrote:A little late I know, but I would ask what you hope to achieve by shooting on the move? In what scenario do you think you would employ this tactic?Shoot_First wrote:This video captures my incompetence during multiple attempts to shoot on the move. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions as to how I could improve. Keep in mind that I'm an age 72 fat guy so what may be easy for you youngsters is not so for me.
1. He has the drop on you. By the time you draw and start to move the BG can get off several rounds. Unless there is a distraction that buys you enough time, the odds are greatly against you. Add this exercise to your training. Buy two air soft guns that match your EDC. Holster one in a concealed carry configuration and give the other to someone that will replace your paper target. Now run the drill 10 times and see how many times you "die".
Lately, complying with the BG's demands gets people shot. Fake compliance along with a distraction will buy yourself some time.
2. Look at the statistics of armed robberies. Now look at the percentage of those armed robberies that end in the victim being shot. Now compare that percentage to your survival rate in the air soft drill above. I believe you will find your success rate much lower.
Anything you can do to make it harder for the BG to shoot you is a good thing. We are all responsible for our on protection. Moving and shooting is just one of the many techniques that are taught.
I'm not saying that a person shouldn't defend themselves. I am saying that you have to pick your battles very carefully. Unless you see a very good window of opportunity or you are convinced that the BG is intent on more than your wallet, statistics would dictate cooperation.
I would also suggest at that distance a knife might be a better self defense weapon than a firearm. It is often easier to draw and it's use allows you to move into the BG while using leverage to redirect his weapon.
You must have missed shoot first's age he said he was 72 years old I'm 67 and have a laundry list of ailments that make a knife fight a total loosing proposition. The most people over 60 are in no shape to go to the ground with a 20 something.
I would like to see statistics supporting the statement that "lately complying with the BG's demands gets people shot". That sounds more like an emotional response than a factual one.
the above also makes you a smaller target. I don't use the two straight arm shooting stance As I don't want to square myself to the shooter. I'm right handed so I bend my right elbow and turn my body to the right placing my left foot forward of my right foot at about 45 degrees (to the left). This brings the sights closer in and presents a smaller target to the would be shooter who unlike the target would be turning in the direction you are moving. I would then arc to my right. This keeps the BG turning as I am moving. It also gives me a better field of view in the direction I would be moving. This stance may affect your accuracy somewhat but greatly affects the size of the target the BG has to aim at. Doing everything you can to make sure he misses is just as important as hitting him.