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tomtexan wrote:Here is a follow up story on one of the officers involved, now indicted.

Former DPD officer indicted for shooting mentally ill man

cb1000rider wrote:

A police affidavit says Bennett “took several steps toward them with the knife raised in an aggressive manner.” Surveillance footage shows otherwise –– Bennett never raises his arms or takes a step toward the approaching officers.

I don't know why, if you screwed up as a LEO, that you'd ever admit it. The only down side would be a non-firing offense that you get caught lying about.
Where is the dash cam footage here? It looks like a cam from part of a residence.

mojo84 wrote:

jmra wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

jmra wrote:

mojo84 wrote:I thought they called the Texas Rangers and to do investigations like that.do you think they called the FBI because they are saying it's a civil rights violation?

Who is "they"?

Usually the internal affairs of the department that has to investigate their own.

In that case I doubt "they" called the FBI because a federal civil rights conviction against a Dallas PD officer means the dept pays millions if not tens of millions to the victim.

You may be right. I don't know that much about the inner workings of such. That's why I asked? I do know "they" call on the Rangers sometimes when " they" decide "they" need to make sure an investigation is unbiased or more complicated than what "they" are set up to handle.

mojo84 wrote:

jmra wrote:

mojo84 wrote:I thought they called the Texas Rangers and to do investigations like that.do you think they called the FBI because they are saying it's a civil rights violation?

Who is "they"?

Usually the internal affairs of the department that has to investigate their own.

mojo84 wrote:I thought they called the Texas Rangers and to do investigations like that.do you think they called the FBI because they are saying it's a civil rights violation?

E.Marquez wrote:

rbwhatever1 wrote:Update: (Disclaimer - This could be WFAA Media lies) Those pesky affidavits & video cameras.

A police affidavit detailing the incident says Bennett “took several steps toward them with the knife raised in an aggressive manner.”

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/dallas/C ... 91301.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Footage from a surveillance camera pointed at the street where officers shot a mentally ill man in the abdomen earlier this week shows the man never walked toward police nor raised a knife to them, disputing a police officer’s narrative provided in a sworn affidavit.

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/dallas/s ... 52551.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I must have missed it.. Where are the affidavits ? or links to them? Im not seeing them at either of those two link you provided.

Thanks

rbwhatever1 wrote:Update: (Disclaimer - This could be WFAA Media lies) Those pesky affidavits & video cameras.

A police affidavit detailing the incident says Bennett “took several steps toward them with the knife raised in an aggressive manner.”

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/dallas/C ... 91301.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Footage from a surveillance camera pointed at the street where officers shot a mentally ill man in the abdomen earlier this week shows the man never walked toward police nor raised a knife to them, disputing a police officer’s narrative provided in a sworn affidavit.

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/dallas/s ... 52551.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

E.Marquez wrote:

srothstein wrote: The officers statement said that the mentally ill man lunged at him and took four steps towards him, causing the officer to fear for his life and open fire. .

With all due respect.... we do not know that.
We know a media reporter, said that is what the officer said..

And knowing the historical accuracy of media sources, the bias they often have, and the very real fact that, they exist to entertain, and get your attention.. Not inform...

I have a hard time making statements on "fact" when the only facts we have are regurgitated and media fed ones.

texanjoker wrote:

jmra wrote:Unfortunately perception is everything. No matter what other evidence is presented this is going to be a PR nightmare for the department. Right or wrong, anything short of charges being filed against the officers is going to be perceived by the public as a coverup.

Let me ask you this. Now a leo and chl are different in that the leos responded to this call. However, consider if you had to use your handgun in self defense. Would you want the powers that be to cave to public perception (GZ is a good example), or do a complete investigation and go by the facts of the case, whatever they may be even if that went against the public perception? The only thing we the public know is what the media has told us and a silent video. Nobody knows what the officers "really" said expect for the people involved in the investigation. If the grand jury clears the officers and the dept finds this was within their policy, they need to back their officers and not cave to public perception. Time will tell and if they did wrong we will read all about it, and if they didn't we won't hear anything from the media.

texanjoker wrote:

E.Marquez wrote:ugg so many questions so little info.

Hard to see the threat from the officers side....but was not there.
For sure it's going to be a hard sell on there part to explain and articulate the perceived threat.

Wild guess will go anything from raciest murder to ND leading to follow on fire...

time and investigation will find the truth.

To add the video doesn't show if the suspect had the weapon was in his hand when he stood up; what he said when he stood up, his demeanor, if he was off his medication, what the officer believed he was doing, ect.

Like all OIS they will do an investigation which will take time. The grand jury will then decide if they had a right to defend themselves. Regardless if the grand jury clears them the PD also has an internal investigation as to whether they followed policy.

The mom was referring to mental health officers. However all leo's are trained to deal with mental health subjects and when there is a 911 call the closest go with a mental health officer responding if needed.