Now you've totally lost me. I have no clue what you are implying.howdy wrote:jmra wrote:Morally or legally?Texas_Blaze wrote:Are police officers obligated to protect? No.
They felt neither at Columbine, Luby's, McDonald's, Virginia Tech......
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- Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:34 pm
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- Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:21 pm
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Morally or legally?Texas_Blaze wrote:Are police officers obligated to protect? No.
- Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:13 am
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Just curious, anyone have links to news stories where a CHL intervened in a situation like this and things went badly for the CHL?
I know that 99% of these situations go unreported because the gun doesn't come into play. If it weren't for this forum we wouldn't hear about many of the ones we know about.
We will never know how many crimes have been prevented because people like the OP stepped up. Or how many could have been prevented but weren't because the victim wasn't a relative of one of the "GGs" present.
I know that 99% of these situations go unreported because the gun doesn't come into play. If it weren't for this forum we wouldn't hear about many of the ones we know about.
We will never know how many crimes have been prevented because people like the OP stepped up. Or how many could have been prevented but weren't because the victim wasn't a relative of one of the "GGs" present.
- Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:44 am
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Purplehood wrote:I disagree. My father taught me by example to intervene in situations like this way before I had ever heard of a CHL.Texas_Blaze wrote:I will probably get bashed for this. If you didn't have a firearm, would you have still gotten involved? My answer is no, so I wouldn't get involved now that I do have a gun. I have a wife and children, I carry for them and me. My wife is doing the same. Let the rest carry for themselves. You risked your freedom potentially for those who don't want to protect themselves. My suggestion is get your wife and kids in the car with you, call the cops, and drive to a safe distance. Then talk to cops when they arrive. I would never go to the rescue.
My father did the same and that is the way I am raising my sons.- Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:37 pm
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Sir, it is people like you that lead me to believe that not all is lost, that there is still hope for society.Grdollaway wrote:The answer is yes, I would have still intervened even if I had no gun. I carry a gun not as false sense of security but to be prepared. In the event it is needed. In this situation it was not needed. I have become involved in physical altercations in the event of protecting myself or my family. I am confident in my physical ability and believe there is in many times ways to deescalate a situation without violence. I feel that becoming involved in this situation I was able to remove an innocent bystander from an uncomfortable situation.
I believe in building strong community and helping each other out. So unfortunately my children were exposed to a challenging situation and what they say was an individual needing assistance and someone coming to there aid. I have raised them to be generous through volunteering at food pantries, nursing homes walks for causes, etc. In my opinion we have a commitment to community. I do understand I may have put myself out there and that was a decision I made. I would do it again but yes allowing additional distance between myself and the aggressor. I grew up in a challenging environment and have seen first hand that violence begets violence.
I made a commitment when I received my CHL that I would not over react in a situation and assess all options. It is not a batman badge or give me any additional duties. I have stood my ground for my beliefs and my community long before my CHL and will continue to with or without a gun.
I do appreciate the various opinions though and it shows where many stand and were they are from.
Thank you.
- Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:04 pm
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I know what I would do because I have been there and wasn't armed at the time. So, I guess that answers your first question.Texas_Blaze wrote:I understand the sentiment. Mom doesn't drive, she is always with dad. Sis, well she would probably give him some groceries from the basket, invite him to church, and pray with him on the spot. No fear, for better or worse.jmra wrote:Bet you would feel different if he had come to the rescue of your mother or sister.Texas_Blaze wrote:I will probably get bashed for this. If you didn't have a firearm, would you have still gotten involved? My answer is no, so I wouldn't get involved now that I do have a gun. I have a wife and children, I carry for them and me. My wife is doing the same. Let the rest carry for themselves. You risked your freedom potentially for those who don't want to protect themselves. My suggestion is get your wife and kids in the car with you, call the cops, and drive to a safe distance. Then talk to cops when they arrive. I would never go to the rescue.
My decision is based solely on the fact that the risk of getting involved is to high. 4kids, ages 6-13, more important than a stranger, regardless if she is someone's mother or sister. No apologies.
I don't have the luxury of walking away. I have two teenage boys that I am teaching how to be men of honor. Men that will stand up for what is right and pure. Men that will understand all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. How could I possibly teach them this if I were to abandon this young woman in need.
I have stated many times that I would not risk my safety for material things, but a defenseless woman or child is entirely a different story.
I believe the OP did the right thing and I applaud him.
- Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:01 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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Bet you would feel different if he had come to the rescue of your mother or sister.Texas_Blaze wrote:I will probably get bashed for this. If you didn't have a firearm, would you have still gotten involved? My answer is no, so I wouldn't get involved now that I do have a gun. I have a wife and children, I carry for them and me. My wife is doing the same. Let the rest carry for themselves. You risked your freedom potentially for those who don't want to protect themselves. My suggestion is get your wife and kids in the car with you, call the cops, and drive to a safe distance. Then talk to cops when they arrive. I would never go to the rescue.