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by jmra
Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:37 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: Update Notification on Test & CHL100
Replies: 21
Views: 3536

Re: Update Notification on Test & CHL100

dogflight wrote:[Making sure my soapbox is nice and sturdy...]

If we're actually talking about a Texas CHL class here, you might refer the instructor to page 17 of the CHL-16:
Sec. 411.188. HANDGUN PROFICIENCY REQUIREMENT.
(d) Only a qualified handgun instructor may administer the proficiency examination to obtain or to renew a license. The proficiency examination must include:
(1) a written section on the subjects listed in Subsection (b); and
(2) a physical demonstration of proficiency...
Add in DPS policy that 70% is a passing score on the written exam, it's hard to understand the instructors belief that there are no rules about how the test is to be administered.

Frighteningly for you and the others, it might even be argued that the license of anyone "tested" that way is not valid because they didn't actually demonstrate their proficiency.

[Clambering down from soapbox now.]
The questions were "written" on the tv (power point). We each answered each question correctly. That was his argument anyway.
I'm not at all worried about my CHL getting yanked. I've seen a lot worse violations reported without the student being affected. I'm just thankful I'm done with the classes and don't have to worry about some idiot of an instructor screwing stuff up.
Glad all you guys do a bang up job. The industry needs more like you.
by jmra
Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:58 am
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: Update Notification on Test & CHL100
Replies: 21
Views: 3536

Re: Update Notification on Test & CHL100

dogflight wrote:
jmra wrote: I didn't even see a copy of the test my last class. The instructor read the questions to the group and we all "participated" by answering orally.
HOLY COW! :shock: Wait, you're pulling our legs. Aren't you? Please say yes.
Nope. Shocked me too. But according to the instructor the rules do not spell out how the test is to be administered, only that it had to be administered. Based on our "participation" in answering the questions we all passed.
There were only 5 of us in the group and I'm confident that we all were up to speed, but I still question the method used.
by jmra
Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:02 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: Update Notification on Test & CHL100
Replies: 21
Views: 3536

Re: Update Notification on Test & CHL100

dogflight wrote:
6 Point Star wrote:I have a test with the four questions that no longer apply blacked out that is what I will use if DPS is not forthcoming with the needed information. I will give a 46 question test. I will not teach the "test says this but but the law says this". I see no reason to confuse the students any more than we are.
Great minds. Following the test in my class yesterday, I decided that if a corrected test is not forthcoming, I'd do just that: mark the questions off the test sheet and just score 'em as correct. Much more expeditious and far less confusing for the student (who is already suffering from information overload) than "you'll have to answer it this way, but in reality..."
switch wrote:I changed one answer ... and lined out some verbiage and added 'prior to expiration'.
I'd be real cautious about modifying the actual text of any questions or answers. Even if you change only one word, you are in essence writing your own test question - and we have no authority to do that. I realize you're achieving essentially the same end as simply ignoring a question, but I can envision an ugly scenario or two where it might create some difficulty for you down the road. Just my two percent observation ($.02).
I didn't even see a copy of the test my last class. The instructor read the questions to the group and we all "participated" by answering orally. If that is acceptable, I don't see how changing questions in order to be compliant with the new laws is going to get anyone in trouble.

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