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mayor wrote:I guess i view things more black and white than most people. What ANY of the 'authorities' did in NOLA that was illegal was wrong. Wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing wrong. If only person had their rights infringed, it was wrong. We are ALL free all the time or NONE of us are free any time.
puma guy wrote:EEllis wrote:
Show me where I claimed that no guns were taken and no one was pulled out of a house! You are, seemingly deliberately, misrepresenting what I have stated. I don't know if it is because when you read them you allowed what you thought I was trying to say affect how you read what I wrote but regardless I have stated often enough that I know gun confiscations took place just that I did't agree with the feel, and I know that's vague, of the NRA piece. Funny enough you don't really contradict anything I state just seemingly are upset and outraged that I seem to feel slightly different than you believe I should. Come on now.You do so by inference. I interpret it that you refute something that happened on the video is an accurate portrayal - you mean something didn't happen or something else did happen. No you didn't directly state this or that didn't happen, you just cast a complete blanket of doubt including casting doubt on the truthfulness of the people interviewed. Personally when I see a woman tackled and removed on video I believe my eyes. I also don't think the people are lying about what happened to them. If I was one of the people who went through this and saw your comments how else should I interpret your comments. (That's rhetorical BTW) It seems to me after reading some of your comments in other posts you make statements for the sake of argument, but that's just me. No I am not going to offer up examples, it's JMHO.EEllis wrote:Bang4Buck wrote:Wow. Never even knew this happened. Obviously mainstream media didn't cover this. I'm sure someone else posted on this. I'm just floored and felt a need to share:
http://www.nranews.com/ginny/video/new- ... st-katrina" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I hate to say it but I was there and this isn't an accurate portrayal in my experience.
100%!First of all the video YOU posted showed people that had been pulled from homes and handcuffed until their guns had been confiscated.EEllis wrote:Where was that statement of mine? No luck? Maybe because that isn't what I said? I know they took guns but I said the portrayal of what happened was different from what I remembered. Part of that was the the cops using force to remove residents not just about gun seizures. I didn't see cops, and I didn't hear of cops, searching occupied houses. I know that if when searching unoccupied houses they took any gun the found, I know they took any and all weaponry they found on anyone that was provided aid, I know that at the very least if they saw a gun they would take it even if you were in you own yard. I also know that every bar, and they were the first businesses open and fed many people thro the aftermath, had at least one gun onsite and never heard of a single one that got taken. If you are saying that some groups of cops, since there were LEO's from everywhere, were more concerned with firearms than others, well that's human nature, so? What that film showed is directly contradicting your statements not mine. Even if you think they just did that to show they were equal opportunity it still makes you wrong in your statement. And your accusation that they just did it after complaints is meaningless unless you can somehow show that they only did go bother the "rich folk" because of negative press because when something aired has nothing to do with when it was filmed and is poor evidence of why someone is doing something. Mind you I'm not even going to declare you wrong! I'm just saying so far it's hot air that you have at least been at least partially contradicted on.jmra wrote:This aired after they took a lot of heat for treating the wealthy differently. But what this video does do is contridict your earlier statements that guns were not confiscated. Ironic isn't it?EEllis wrote:" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;jmra wrote:If by "more affluent areas" you mean middle class, you would be correct. The upper class didn't have anything to worry about.tommyg wrote:From what I gather the grabbers went into the more affluent areas and took guns from people who would not put
up any resistane and be able to quickly replace the illegally taken guns . What a farce
Just not accurate
This aired after they took a lot of heat for treating the wealthy differently. But what this video does do is contridict your earlier statements that guns were not confiscated. Ironic isn't it?EEllis wrote:" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;jmra wrote:If by "more affluent areas" you mean middle class, you would be correct. The upper class didn't have anything to worry about.tommyg wrote:From what I gather the grabbers went into the more affluent areas and took guns from people who would not put
up any resistane and be able to quickly replace the illegally taken guns . What a farce
Just not accurate
If by "more affluent areas" you mean middle class, you would be correct. The upper class didn't have anything to worry about.tommyg wrote:From what I gather the grabbers went into the more affluent areas and took guns from people who would not put
up any resistane and be able to quickly replace the illegally taken guns . What a farce
The fact that it was the Garden District speaks volumes. Most of these people's homes have been in their families for generations. They are well known by the local officers and have a very strong sense of community. This uptown area has always been treated a little differently by city hall than the rest of the city so I'm not surprised that the same strong arm tactics weren't mandated for those patrolling this area.EEllis wrote:Garden district. As you must know there were many people who didn't leave. They didn't get dragged off. There was a curfew and you had to be careful but they stayed the whole time. The biggest concern I remember was that if they left they couldn't get back in not that the cops would make them leave. Did it happen? I'm sure it did I just don't remember it being a major concern. Food and water were issues and people would line up at the dome for MRE's and the NG would sometimes take MRE's with them to pass out when they were on patrol, but everyone seemed busy enough without dragging people out of town. Again I'm sure it had to of happened somewhere I just don't remember it as an issue at the time.jmra wrote: I lived in NOLA for 30 years. I have heard many recount these stories. Perhaps you would be willing to share exactly what "area" you worked.
I lived in NOLA for 30 years. I have heard many recount these stories. Perhaps you would be willing to share exactly what "area" you worked.EEllis wrote:I'm not out top trash anybody but this is a "fake" news type of thing. Look at the film of the old lady being tackled. They show before they show during but they left out the little bit where they start the arrest, like maybe she got a little careless waving the gun around? Not that it excuses the illegal orders that I do believe they gave but it is about being dramatic and telling their story not being accurate IMHO. The cops and NG and heck the aspca were going door to door and kicking in every building where they didn't get an answer, but they were not dragging people out for the most part. With enough different groups and agencies I'm sure someone did wrong in just about every way you can think of but people who were out of the water were not being dragged out. Maybe it was a racial profiling thing or just the area I worked but everyone had better things to worry about then the few residents who might have guns.Bang4Buck wrote:How was this inaccurate? I seriously don't know. Seems like they got sued and lost for a reason.EEllis wrote:Bang4Buck wrote:Wow. Never even knew this happened. Obviously mainstream media didn't cover this. I'm sure someone else posted on this. I'm just floored and felt a need to share:
http://www.nranews.com/ginny/video/new- ... st-katrina" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I hate to say it but I was there and this isn't an accurate portrayal in my experience.
