Verbal notice can simply be "you can't carry a gun here". Written notice which includes a sign, card, or other document has to include the correct language. Only the sign requires the inclusion of Spanish and the minimum letter size.SewTexas wrote:03Lightningrocks wrote:You misunderstood. I wasn't saying he could not be fired. There were a couple of post stating that "ALL" they could do is fire you.SewTexas wrote:03Lightningrocks wrote:I may be mistaken about this but I am pretty sure that once you have been verbally and personally in writing been given 30:06 notice, you will be in violation of the law if you carry inside the building. I read a few posts saying all they can do is fire you but I am not so sure that is correct.
why do you say you're not sure that's correct?
the one thing I notice here is that his notice is not include 30.06 wording, so I actually am not sure he would be in violation of the law, but he might be considered "trespassing" or some such. And he can still easily be fired....but, it's Texas, he can be fired because of the color of his T-shirt, and it sounds like he's not worried about that.
One more thing. I am pretty sure the verbal 30:06 does not have to be in exact wording. I also don't believe written notification has to be exact 30:06 wording. The exact wording issue is for the sign only. Simply telling me I am forbidden to carry on the premises carries the same weight as a 30:06 sign on the front door. Having me sign a form stating I have been served notice firearms are prohibited on the premises regardless of my CHL status is also ample notice.
I thought they had to include the 30.06 in the manual, or policy? eh, I could be wrong, it's been a long time since I've worked in Texas and my husband works from home for a Co out of state, so we don't worry about it.
tubular, something to think about....you sound like you feed a strong loyalty to this company, and it sounds like a small enough company that they should know they have several guys who like their guns. So where is their loyalty to y'al? Maybe it's time to talk to the other companies that have been courting you?
I learned a very long time ago, just because I was very important to a company didn't mean they treated me like I was.
Here is the code:
(3) "Written communication" means:
(A) a card or other document on which is written
language identical to the following: "Pursuant to Section 30.06,
Penal Code (trespass by holder of license to carry a concealed
handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411,
Government Code (concealed handgun law), may not enter this
property with a concealed handgun";
(B) a sign posted on the property that:
(i) includes the language described by
Paragraph (A) in both English and Spanish;
(ii) appears in contrasting colors with
block letters at least one inch in height; and
(iii) is displayed in a conspicuous manner
clearly visible to the public.
Without the proper wording the policy manual is no more legally enforceable than a gun buster sign.