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C-dub wrote:

jmra wrote: http://www.dps.texas.gov/RSD/CHL/faqs/index.htm
"34. I am a Texas Concealed Handgun License (CHL) holder. Are there any places where I cannot carry my concealed handgun?
Yes. §46.035, Texas Penal Code prohibits carrying of handguns and other weapons in certain places. These include but are not limited to:

On the premises of a business that derives 51% or more of its income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption
On the premises where a high school, collegiate, or professional sporting or interscholastic event is taking place
On the premises of a correctional facility
On the premises of a hospital or nursing home (unless licensee has written authorization)
In an amusement park
On the premises of a church, synagogue, or other place of worship
At any meeting of a governmental entity"

If Charles or anyone gets around to it, those last four are incorrect if the proper notice isn't given. It is amazing that the DPS' own website would not have corrected that by now.

To the OP, while I'm very very late in my congratulations, the evolution of your wife's acceptance and embracement of you carrying all the way to getting her own gun and CHL is remarkable. Congratulations on your patience.

That's the reason I posted from the FAQ section - to show that DPS still hasn't fixed their error.

SewTexas wrote:

jmra wrote:

SewTexas wrote:but if it's the instructors, then why? they should know better by now! otherwise they aren't keeping up with the law.

The FAQ section of the DPS website still says it is illegal to carry in a place of worship. You would think they know better.

what?????

Mr Cotton. can something be done to get this fixed?

Checked again to make sure it hadn't been corrected:
http://www.dps.texas.gov/RSD/CHL/faqs/index.htm
"34. I am a Texas Concealed Handgun License (CHL) holder. Are there any places where I cannot carry my concealed handgun?
Yes. §46.035, Texas Penal Code prohibits carrying of handguns and other weapons in certain places. These include but are not limited to:

On the premises of a business that derives 51% or more of its income from the sale or service of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption
On the premises where a high school, collegiate, or professional sporting or interscholastic event is taking place
On the premises of a correctional facility
On the premises of a hospital or nursing home (unless licensee has written authorization)
In an amusement park
On the premises of a church, synagogue, or other place of worship
At any meeting of a governmental entity"

SewTexas wrote:but if it's the instructors, then why? they should know better by now! otherwise they aren't keeping up with the law.

The FAQ section of the DPS website still says it is illegal to carry in a place of worship. You would think they know better.

carlson1 wrote:

jmra wrote:

SewTexas wrote:

5murphy7 wrote:I thought you couldn't carry in a place of worship? Church?

5murphy7 is new to the Forum. Do not be so hard on him because you have no ideal what instructor he had. Some of the instructors are not even aware of what must be posted or not posted.

If the church is not 30.06 posted then you can carry away. Welcome to the Forum.

Not upset with 5murphy7 (even told him I was just kidding and then showed him where to find the info). I'm banging my head against the wall because this happens far too often. I'd love to know where the breakdown is occurring.

SewTexas wrote:

5murphy7 wrote:I thought you couldn't carry in a place of worship? Church?

5murphy7 wrote:I thought you couldn't carry in a place of worship? Church?

I'm not going to make this easy for you. It's going to require a little work on you're part. Find where the code says you can't carry in a place of worship. Then continue reading down to the bottom until you get a big smile on your face. Then go to your instructor and demand a refund.

Just kidding:
Penal code 46.035
(i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.

(B)(6) prohibits church carry
(I) say (b)(6) doesn't apply unless you receive notice under 30.06

I'd still ask for that refund.

baron wrote: Glad the update wasn't about a similar protest by your second wife.

Blindref757 wrote:

Blindref757 wrote:I've had my plastic for a couple of months now and the wife has not really cared too much either way. She supported me getting it, she doesn't think that money spent on guns and ammo are really in the budget, but she isn't anti-gun. She's made a few little jabs at me when I've put on my holster to go to eat or to wally world--but I thought it was just in fun.

Today we hit a wall when I started to head out to church with my gun in my holster. She really threw a fit...she didn't see any need to be armed in the house of the Lord. I didn't have the time or energy to argue...so I left it on the dresser.

Any tips on trying to get her to understand? I get it...I know we could have car trouble on the way, we could be in an accident with an enraged driver, and while highly unlikely, an active shooter could bust through the doors of the sanctuary. She is viewing my carrying as a "little man syndrome" (I'm 6-3/290) instead of preparedness for disaster.

My, my, my how things have changed! Here is another update...and it is a good one!
This post 3 years ago was one of my first on this forum. Since this time, my wife has really gone through a big change in her mindset...so much so that we went to the local gun show last weekend and bought her a brand new Glock 42...and she is getting her fingerprints done today and taking her class tomorrow! She is taking the class without me...and her instructor is a former firearms instructor for BATFE. I know she will be properly instructed and will probably come out shooting better than me!

Oh...and I don't weigh 290...down to 250!

Congrats

Oldgringo wrote:I didn't think religious stuff was allowed on this forum. Rule 11 or thereabouts?

Hope you're wrong. I find the Prayer Request section of this forum invaluable.

speedsix wrote:...talking to a pastor about most things in life is fine...but bringing up concealed carry to a pastor gives him, if he's so disposed, the opening to give you a written, verbal, and/or oral warning not to carry in church...that won't be on my list of questions...don't start none and there won't be none...

First, I would never suggest you get a new wife over carry at church. That being said, I am more likely to carry at church than I am anywhere else. I work at an ISD so don't carry a lot during the week. I do carry every Sunday at church as I believe the church is as big a target as any.

I am blessed in that not only do my wife and I share the same faith, we both also have an appreciation for guns (not only as a tool that helps ensure the safety of our family but also as the works of art many firearms are). She bought me my first AR and we took the CHL class together. We both shot expert but she did beat me by one point. She reminds me about that often.

I leave the house for church on Sunday morning a couple of hours before the wife and kids (I help with multiple services). The last thing my wife always says before I leave is "I love you. Do you have your gun?".

If you haven't already, I would take her to the range and let her become friendly with your firearms. Stress the importance of her being able to defend herself if you are not around. Play the give and take angle, lets go to the range and then we can go...(something that she enjoys). I have yet to see anyone who after 4 or 5 trips to the range didn't start asking to go to the range. As she becomes more interested in shooting, the church issue will fade.