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by barres
Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:44 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Austin ISD sign
Replies: 47
Views: 6274

davefrmmrfy wrote:You can point to the administrators, but, don't these districts have LAWYERS whose job it is to keep this kind of stuff from happening?
No. They have lawyers to keep the district from doing something that would get them sued successfully or doing something illegal. Since there is no penalty for posting unnecessary and flawed signs, the lawyer doesn't care.
by barres
Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:28 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Austin ISD sign
Replies: 47
Views: 6274

But PC46.035 requires effective notice under Section 30.06 for hospitals to be prohibited. How can effective 30.06 notice be given at a location where 30.06 has no effect?

I don't mean to sound like I'm just trying to be argumentative or trollish, but I disagree with you. That's my last statement on this unless someone convinces me that I am wrong, when I will admit as much.
by barres
Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:14 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Austin ISD sign
Replies: 47
Views: 6274

seamusTX wrote:My brain hurts.
Now that I agree with completely! Of course my wife says a head like mine would hurt anybody. ;-)
by barres
Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:21 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Austin ISD sign
Replies: 47
Views: 6274

But, PC §46.035(i) states "Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06."

How can effective notice be given under PC §30.06 if PC §30.06 is excepted when the property is owned by a governmental entity? I know PC §30.06(e) says not otherwise prohibited by PC §46.035, but PC §46.035 specifically requires effective notice under PC §30.06 to be off-limits.

I am definitely not a lawyer, but I still don't see how a government-owned hospital can post a binding PC §30.06 sign or other notice. Maybe I'm just stubborn that way. :grin:
by barres
Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:10 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Austin ISD sign
Replies: 47
Views: 6274

Liberty wrote:There are exceptions. For example, a hospital can be government owned. It is legal to carry in a hospital unless it is 30.06 posted. In this case the 30.06 sign is valid on Government property.
I'm sorry, but how do you come to that conclusion? For a hospital to be off-limits it must post per 30.06, I agree with. But I see nothing in the code that says it is an exception to 30.06 if the property is owned or leased by a government entity, unless that property is used as a hospital. Unless you're talking about federal property (ie. VA hospitals), but they're not off-limits by Texas law, but by federal law.

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