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DoubleJ wrote:two comments for GC:

1. that girl is tall
2. the bulge on your left hip/flank


on the whole, there are stereotypes for a reason. doesn't make us bad people for using them as a guideline, we just have to be open to the surprises.

1) She's standing on a golf cart and is otherwise only about 5'1"
2) What bulge (other than the "dunlap")? The primary is actually away from the camera, just behind my right hip and the secondary isn't even in the frame...It's on my left ankle. My cell phone was in my right front pocket.

ScubaSigGuy wrote:

"G.C.Montgomery
Since we're comparing photos...Take a look at this one and tell me if it says gun? I ask because I'm wearing three knives and two guns in this photo. It probably helps to say I'm the 300lb gorilla on the right.

That's not a sporting event that you were attending is it?

Officer, I'm not saying whether it was or was not a sporting event. But, even it was, no body said it was in Texas!!!

ScubaSigGuy wrote:I don't know about everyone else but the fancy earplugs scream shooter to me so you must be carrying.




Oh and the high visibility tinted shades as well!

Yeah, I suppose the earplugs were a dead giveaway but noone ever seems to hear gunshots over the roar of an NHRA Top Fueler or Funny Car when the throttles are open.

NcongruNt wrote:Interesting, considering the fact that I've never been in possession of, let alone used any kind of illegal drug, and at that point was not carrying a knife or gun.

I guess I look like a drug dealer? I've never been detained or questioned in relation to such matters. Perhaps a simple picture doesn't really accurately convey the way most people perceive me in person. I've asked several LEOs (around the time this picture was taken, actually) what kind of vibe they got off of me. They always answered that they do not perceive me to be criminal, and to be an honest person. They seemed to pick this up from my demeanor and eyes.

Nowadays, I'm told I sometimes look like I'm in some sort of mafia - especially when I wear an outfit like this:

I believe I was wearing that same outfit when I met seamusTX and El Gato in Galveston. What were your impressions when you met me?

To clarify, you asked if I thought it LOOKED like you might be carrying a gun. The answer again is yes, it does as well as all the other things I said. I'm not making an attempt to judge or insult your character and I'm sorry if it came across that way...It's just MY perception of the first photo, nothing more.

As mentioned by Seamus, there is no behavior to observe along with the picture so all I can comment on is the appearance of the photo. You could have been dressed in a suit and I could have also said you look like a preacher. I get that most of the time when I wear a suit on the east side of town. But then other times, I've had LEO's ask what agency I worked for if I talk to them for a couple minutes...Something about my demeanor apparently says cop even though I haven't gone down that road yet.

Since we're comparing photos...Take a look at this one and tell me if it says gun? I ask because I'm wearing three knives and two guns in this photo. It probably helps to say I'm the 300lb gorilla on the right.

NcongruNt wrote:....I've tamed my styles a little bit in the past few years, but here's a picture of me in May of 2005 (2 years before I got my CHL and started carrying) wearing the above-mentioned photography vest. At this point in my life, I had never even touched a handgun, let alone carried one. Does my outfit shout "carrying a concealed weapon"?

You're not going to like it but yes, I'd have suspected you carried AT LEAST one handgun, if not more, several knives and I might even have wondered if I could find some illegal drugs on your person. Why? I have a friend who works narcotics for an agency in another city. The wardrobe and haircut in the photo perfectly matches the way he dresses when working undercover, particularly when posing as a buyer/seller of crystal meth in certain neighborhoods. It also matches the wardrobe and haircut of known criminals in certain east Houston neighborhoods.

But, that's me. I grew up the son of a cop in east Houston. I'd learned how to spot the dealers on the street and their customers in my neighborhood by the time I hit third-grade. I'm sure that if I grabbed Suzie Homemaker or Johnny Nobody from the suburbs and asked them if it looked like you were carrying a gun or contraband they might say "No." Everyone has different prior experiences and knowledge that influence the way they see the world.