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Diode wrote: Is that the P220 "Carry"? I plan on looking at it at the gun show. I still like the P245 idea too. Someone told me the P245 frame is the same size as the P239 so if I cant find a 245 to fondle I will try it.

I don't know if there is a P220 Carry in single action yet. But such a weapon would present the same issues you have with a 1911. Flintknapper posted an excellent explanation of why "cocked-n-locked" carry isn't as much of a problem as many of us think it is.

I can still argue there are some serious advantages to Glock's and other trigger cocking pistols. DA/SA, DAO, and other trigger-cocking systems like the Glock offer more control for those who haven't spent a great deal of time developing trigger control and trigger discipline.

As for the P245 grip being similar to the P239, I can't agree with that. The P239 is indeed a small framed gun but it's grip doesn't feel quite as truncated as a P245. The 239 is still controllable and comfortable to shoot. It suits those with small hands, particularly women, very well.

The P245 to me, is a bad execution of a good idea. Shaving off a fraction of an inch from the P220 is a good idea. The P220 Carry is a step in the right direction but it retains a full length grip, which is what usually "prints" when carrying a full-size handgun. So I find the P220 Carry model, offers almost no advantage over a standard 220 for carry use. I don't find it to be that much lighter than a regular 220 and the shorter slide length and shorter stroke to me made the gun feel choppy in operation. So as I've looked at buying a new Sig myself. the standard size 220 is all I'm considering. It's just a question of whether I'll go for a 220 single-action first or go for a 220DAK.

Diode wrote:

G.C.Montgomery wrote:I'll go one further and recommend the P220DAK. No need to remember to decock using a lever that's not designed for lefties. The "K" trigger is NOT the same as traditional DAO triggers and is a far cry from SIGs own DAO variants of the past. Drop by Top Gun, they've got three DAK models in the rental fleet. You may decide you hate it, but it's at least worth a look if you've never tried it.

Always fun to try new designs, I'll let ya know what I think of it. I am sure I have a frend with one somewhere :)

I forgot to mention there is now a single-action only version of the P220 that comes with ambi-safeties. Trigger felt good to me. My only complaint is the safeties are a bit stiff to engage. But they'll never be "accidently" disengaged either. Overall it seems like a good package. I'll be looking into one when I've got the extra money.

I'll go one further and recommend the P220DAK. No need to remember to decock using a lever that's not designed for lefties. The "K" trigger is NOT the same as traditional DAO triggers and is a far cry from SIGs own DAO variants of the past. Drop by Top Gun, they've got three DAK models in the rental fleet. You may decide you hate it, but it's at least worth a look if you've never tried it.