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by hirundo82
Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:41 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrying at the Houston Rodeo & Livestock
Replies: 52
Views: 11865

Re: Carrying at the Houston Rodeo & Livestock

BigSRanch wrote:And I'm not sure that Reliant could even post a 30.06 sign, since it is publicly owned.
They probably could post it since §30.06 allows governmental entities to post a valid sign if the premises is prohibited under §46.03 or §46.035. The logic gets a little circular, but it leads me to believe that proper §30.06 notice could be given for a sporting event held on government-owned property.

As a parallel in current law, a posting at a government meeting is valid even if it is held at a government-owned building because the meetings are listed as a prohibited place under §46.035.
by hirundo82
Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:37 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrying at the Houston Rodeo & Livestock
Replies: 52
Views: 11865

Re: Carrying at the Houston Rodeo & Livestock

BigSRanch wrote:Follow up -
The change requiring "effective notice" is in the campus carry bill, and puts ALL sporting events (scholastic, collegiate, and professional) in the same category as churches, hospitals, and amusement parks.
Good catch! I hadn't noticed that. HB 750 would require §30.06 notice at all the sporting events that are currently off limits, although SB 354 wouldn't (would only require notice for college sporting events to ban carry).
by hirundo82
Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:33 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrying at the Houston Rodeo & Livestock
Replies: 52
Views: 11865

Re: Carrying at the Houston Rodeo & Livestock

jamisjockey wrote:But what do you consider a "sporting" event?
A sporting event for our purposes is whatever the prosecutor can get 12 jurors to accept.
by hirundo82
Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:51 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrying at the Houston Rodeo & Livestock
Replies: 52
Views: 11865

Re: Carrying at the Houston Rodeo & Livestock

Teamless wrote:But even if you 'could' carry during the concert, if a LEO saw your weapon, could you PROVE you were not there for the Rodeo? And would it be worth the ride?
That's not how it works--they would have to prove you were there during the rodeo.

You wouldn't be taking a ride, because peace officers can only arrest for misdemeanors committed in their presence (with few exceptions). It is extremely unlikely that a prosecutor would press any such charge because the fact that you were only witnessed carrying during the concert introduces a huge element of reasonable doubt.
by hirundo82
Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:29 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrying at the Houston Rodeo & Livestock
Replies: 52
Views: 11865

Re: Carrying at the Houston Rodeo & Livestock

RoyGBiv wrote:I'd bet (just my guess) if you were "observed" during the concert by a PO, you'd be taking the ride in bracelets regardless.
What crime would he arrest you for? It's not against the law to carry at a concert.
by hirundo82
Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:01 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Carrying at the Houston Rodeo & Livestock
Replies: 52
Views: 11865

Re: Carrying at the Houston Rodeo & Livestock

Teamless wrote:However, - if you go inside (through the ticket line into Reliant Stadium for the Concert/Rodeo (even if you only go for the Concert), it is OFF LIMITS as it is a professional sporting event.
I'm trying to follow the reasoning here. The only part which is off limits is the rodeo as a professional sporting event. Although I'm aware that the ticket is for both the rodeo and the concert, the venue wouldn't be off limits at the time the concert is occurring simply because you hold a ticket to both the rodeo and the concert.

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