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You got what you wanted. Metal detectors, xray machines, extra staffing etc etc etctexas1234 wrote:Gemini, you mean this convenience store worker with bullet proof glass surrounding him, yeah the hard working wives, daughters, sons, and even those that serve in our military that work at the capitol dont have this.
This debate is stupid! Over and out!
I see now. They are a "special" little segment of our society and need "special" treatment. Great. The several incidents line of thinking..... gee, maybe the unspecial guys that work in 7-11's, Circle K's, Quick Marts etc that see a whole lot more "special" incidents than anyone at the state capital need metal detectors and xray machines too. Yea, I get it now. The staffers are pro-gun/pro-chl but only if it excludes / includes them at their whim. Kinda like being a 1st Ammendment supporter but not a 2nd or 10th, or, I support some but not all ammendments..... either put both feet in the tub or get out.texas1234 wrote:I just talked to a few staff members at the Capitol who are pro-gun and pro-chl. They do not want to see access denied to CHL holders, but like me they completely agree something needed to be done about the security up there, it has been dismal for a very long time, and it wasnt just one incident it has been numerous incidents where security has failed in even the most basic forms, and it is not fair to the staff for them to work in a high profile atmosphere like a State Capitol and not have more protection and be completely open to any crazy person who wants to walk in their office and do damage. I understand everyones view on not wanting the State to start imposing locks and chains on everything, but the reality is we dont live in that world and something needed to be done up there to enhance security and help protect the visitors, staff, and legislators. I do understand the metal detectors are not fool proof but they definately help. The Marine in me says its about time and thank goodness they are at least trying to do something before somebody gets hurt. On a purely ideological level no I dont want metal detectors but the common sense part of me says you dont have a choice.
hmmm... the link works for me. Anybody else having a problem with the posted link?PvilleStang wrote:That link doesn't quite work. I understand that Perry was the only one to vote against it. I wonder if (assuming there are CHL holders in the state rep and senators) they will continue to carry anyways. Reminds me of when they voted to require two license plates on every vehicle, and then John Kelso video taped half the officials vehicles leaving the capitol grounds, lacking a front plate. Darned hypocrites!gemini wrote:Link to members of the board that voted for this:
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The thought of metal detectors and xray machines at my state capital makes me ill.
I would agree that this is another reason to let teachers and CHL's carry in schools and at school functions.texas1234 wrote:Just for the record I am not so concerned for the politicians as I am for 100's of school kids that walk those halls everyday. The "people" are there a lot more than the politicians. The politicians should feel perfectly safe because they are rarely there.
Ok. So 1 incident, in which a stalker pops off a round outside; and the state capital should be locked down with metal detectors,texas1234 wrote:He shot outside after he walked in past the 6 troopers in the foyer and all the way down the annex to the Senators office in which case he asked for the female staffer in her office that he was stalking (which was not her boyfriend) and when he was told she wasnt there we walked back outside freaked out and fired outside. Yes detectors would have mattered in this case. She is lucky she wasnt in her office.
And my opinion is I think it is foolish to have them. The single incident earlier was a upset boyfriend of some capital worker.texas1234 wrote:They dont have them yet and they did not have them last session either. It is also foolish and irresponsible in my opinion not to have them. I am there 10 times a year at a minimum and during session and it has always blown my mind, as a matter of fact the first thing anybody new I take there with me for a meeting that has never been always says. "You mean you can just walk right in"