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speedsix wrote:...you would have to shake that can of rocks one more time, wouldn't you!!! whatever happened to "Blessed are the peacemakers?"!!!

"I am Quaker and I cannot curse thee or smite thee...but I can give thy child a set of drums"

C-dub wrote:

Astro99 wrote:Ps. No one is going to come up behind u and just attack you it does not work that way. If they don't show u a badge I could understand.They have to show a badge. We dont stop people unless less were 100%. Period.

It might just be me, but I'm wondering what kind of badge you have?

Don't we all have ourCHL badges?

Astro99 wrote:Ps. No one is going to come up behind u and just attack you it does not work that way. If they don't show u a badge I could understand.They have to show a badge. We dont stop people unless less were 100%. Period.

Yeah well...as I said look at my post above. Difference in what is supposed to happen vs what actually does perhaps....

philip964 wrote:

JJVP wrote:

According to company policy, a copy of which was posted online with Utah news stories, employees should apprehend shoplifters, but they may not use force to defend themselves except as needed to get out of the situation.

That has to be the most insane company policy I have ever seen. If they are required to apprehend shoplifters, then they should be allowed to defend themselves. Otherwise, don't require employees to apprehend shoplifters.

I have been told by a Walmart employee that they are not to apprehend shoplifters once they are outside. And I think security is the only ones who are to approach shoplifters inside.

It may be a case of what is supposed to happen vs what they actually do..however, two cases I personally know of and one in the news: The two I know of were both similar at two different stores. One was a 13 yo girl WITH her mother. The girl was grabbed by the arm (with her mother beside her, never asked her, just grabbed the girl) at the door by the door greeter and asked if she was hiding anything, as she had a loose shirt and for some reeason he thought she might be shoplifting something. The mother demanded the manager and all he did was apologize. The other was a preacher friend of mine who was out the door, and grabbed by an employee by the arm and asked for a reciept after the alarm went off. My firend told them "I am not required to show you a reciept. Your employee should learn to do a better job scanning. And if you ever lay a hand on me again, you had better be prepared to lose it." He is retired Navy and law enforcement by the way. He did not have a CHL. If anyone grabs me, my first reaction is to shove them away and draw my gun. They need to be trained to NEVER do that to a anyone. The other that was in the news was a cart pusher who heard the security yelling at a fleeing shoplifter...he ran after her and jumped on the hood of her car until it crashed in the parking lot. That was indeed dangerous and I could see firing someone for that one....although it sounded like Walmart was praising them.

BTW...the situation with the 13 yo girl happened about 5 yrs ago, and the incident with my preacher friend was this year.