We did have the wording of the 51% w/o the Red 51% at a local convenience store. They finally removed it.seamusTX wrote:It's a legal requirements for which there is no penalty for the hospital. As far as I can tell, no state agency is charged with enforcing it.
I've seen all manner of signage on hospitals and a few nursing homes, from generic gunbuster signs to signs that some amateur lawyer must have devised that are neither the 51% nor 30.06 verbiage.
- Jim
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- Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:12 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Baylor Medical Plaza
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Re: Baylor Medical Plaza
- Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:31 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Baylor Medical Plaza
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Re: Baylor Medical Plaza
Hmm, I have only ever seen one hospital to post the wording of the 51%. If required, they sure are out of compliance!Keith B wrote:Actually, yes they are required to post. They must post the 51% sign with the verbiage only, not the red 51%. However, this doesn't cause use to not be able to carry unless they post a 30.06. Mike's comments were correct.wgoforth wrote:No... a hospital is not required to post... same with a church also listed. Penal codes are written like the Constitution. When changed, they do not remove a law, they amend it in another section. This law WAS the law but amended by legislation 2 years later. Read to the end of the section and you will see: (i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not applymikeloc wrote:We always refer to Section 46.035, but we seem to forget that a hospital must post under 411.204
GC §411.204. NOTICE REQUIRED ON CERTAIN PREMISES
(b) A hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code,
or a nursing home licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety
Code, shall prominently display at each entrance to the hospital or
nursing home, as appropriate, a sign that complies with the requirements
of Subsection (c) other than the requirement that the sign
include on its face the number "51".
(c) The sign required under Subsections (a) and (b) must give
notice in both English and Spanish that it is unlawful for a person
licensed under this subchapter to carry a handgun on the premises.
Therefore a hospital is required to post a sign saying it’s illegal to carry even though we can carry as long as they do not post 30.06.
Mike
if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.
- Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:07 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Baylor Medical Plaza
- Replies: 25
- Views: 3141
Re: Baylor Medical Plaza
No... a hospital is not required to post... same with a church also listed. Penal codes are written like the Constitution. When changed, they do not remove a law, they amend it in another section. This law WAS the law but amended by legislation 2 years later. Read to the end of the section and you will see: (i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not applymikeloc wrote:We always refer to Section 46.035, but we seem to forget that a hospital must post under 411.204
GC §411.204. NOTICE REQUIRED ON CERTAIN PREMISES
(b) A hospital licensed under Chapter 241, Health and Safety Code,
or a nursing home licensed under Chapter 242, Health and Safety
Code, shall prominently display at each entrance to the hospital or
nursing home, as appropriate, a sign that complies with the requirements
of Subsection (c) other than the requirement that the sign
include on its face the number "51".
(c) The sign required under Subsections (a) and (b) must give
notice in both English and Spanish that it is unlawful for a person
licensed under this subchapter to carry a handgun on the premises.
Therefore a hospital is required to post a sign saying it’s illegal to carry even though we can carry as long as they do not post 30.06.
Mike
if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.
- Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:29 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Baylor Medical Plaza
- Replies: 25
- Views: 3141
Re: Baylor Medical Plaza
Depending on which door, the Baylor in Dallas was properly posted. Some doors were and some were not... but there was a valid 30.06. My son was there for a month and wished it was otherwise...