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In both England and the United States, those people most zealous for tighter gun control laws tend also to be most lenient toward criminals and most restrictive on police. The net result is that law-abiding citizens become more vulnerable when they are disarmed and criminals disobey gun control laws, as they disobey other laws.

Other quotes like this I agree with. It isn't necessarily more guns or less guns, but the mindset of the people and leadership. The same mindset that supports gun control also is soft on crime and punishment in general.

KLB wrote:Here's a much calmer discussion from a serious economist:
http://townhall.com/columnists/thomasso ... e-n2181117

I realize this is partly a thought exercise, but I would disagree with some of his statements.

If restrictions on gun ownership do reduce murders, we can repeal the Second Amendment, as other Constitutional Amendments have been repealed. Laws exist to protect people. People do not exist to perpetuate laws.

This goes back to sacrificing rights for security. For argument purposes, it isn't so bad, but you have to be careful that you are not saying you would give up guns for safety. In this case, he is using it because he already knows the answer. In the right circumstances, I might use that argument also.