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Dougmyers5 wrote:I have a Charter 44 Special old Son of Sam pistol I keep in my console in my truck and one speed reloader also.

At times I carry a new Charter 2000 Pugg 44 Special and a speed reloader on myself when driving that way I feel like I have a match back-up gun and ammo for both guns if needed.

How do you like the pug? I've got a charter 2000 .38 special that I got for my wife, but I'd like to get the .44 special.

Let's get back to teh original intent of this thread; as I think we're getting to the razor's edge of officer bashing here. I think the original discussion of why you need to use your rights is a good one; and I think we should get back to it. I think everyone agrees that the conduct mentioned in this thread should be dealt with criminally, and further discussion of it won't go much of anywhere. (i.e. I don't want to see this thread locked, because I like the original discussion )

mr surveyor wrote:why such animosity towards law enforcement officers?

For me, I wouldn't call it animosity. I'd call it "Healthy Distrust."

I have had my share of bad experiences with law enforcement. (All of them were in the state of California or small towns in Arizona, none in Texas).

I have been illegally searched after denying the officer permission to search during a traffic stop (This was in a small town, Florence, AZ) (You obviously have something to hide, so I have probable cause to search your car!) He removed the seats from my car, the spare tire from my trunk, and threw the contents of my car all over the side of the road at night. After he found nothing, he left me there. Luckelly, I had tools to put the seats back in my car.

After complaining, I was told that officers may search a vehicle whenever they stop it for any reason, and that I was lucky I wasn't taken to jail.

I've also called the police to report crimes in progress. One instance, from where I used to live in California, a group of kids were shooting bottle rockets at my balcony. A call to the police ended abruptly when Iwas told, "That's the fire department's job. We've notified them; they'll be there in a n hour."

I was involved in an accident near Lake Tahoe, CA. A driver plowed into another driver which plowed into me at 50 MPH while we were stopped. The police report was written, and we were given copies, but that report somehow never officially got into their system. The other driver and I were accuesd of "trying to soil an officers good name" when the report never got entered. Because the report wasn't entered, my insurance company accused me of fraud, and almost sued me. I retained a lawyer, and suddenly "everything cleared up."


Having gone on this huge rant of ugliness, I want to make it absolutely clear that I do not dislike law enforcement officers. Since moving to Texas, I've found that the local LEO's around here are 2000% better than the ones I've been used to. I will always treat them with the utmost respect, even if I feel I'm being wronged. I just trust ones I don't know about as much as they trust me. I don't know the average officer that stops me from Adam, and I don't expect him to know me either. I'm sure most officers, to stay alive, expect the best, but prepare for the worst from citizen encounters. I like to think I do the same thing.

My rights are there to protect me in case I come against a crooked, no good officer. Just like his rights are there to protect him from a no good citizen.