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Yeah, this attitude drives me nuts. Luckelly, once I left California for Phoenix, and left California again for Texas, I saw much better attitudes.

I guess I take the whole police thing at 180˚ from a lot of people. Admittedly, this probably won't go over well, but, I do think that the police are really around for MY benefit; mine, my neighborhoods, my towns, city, state, etc.

SERVICE being the key word; and I think the few officers that forget that do so to the discredit of all the others that remember that.

That's why I get so bent out of shape (and usually try and stay out of these types of threads) because, to put it bluntly, "Hey, buddy, you're here for MY benefit, NOT YOURS."

MY benefit (and the rest of societys) sometimes means pulling me over and citing me when I'm speeding, or have a headlight out. It doesn't mean disarming me when there's no reason to.

Not that I don't want those serving us in our community to be safe; I do, but I don't want the precident leading to being handcuffed and manhandled for every LEO contact either. There's a happy medium that I think we're on the wrong side of, personally.

(puts on nomex underwear)