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by jiannichan
Thu May 08, 2014 9:07 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Question on private sale of firearm refund
Replies: 57
Views: 7151

Re: Question on private sale of firearm refund

I don't plan on communicating him ever again unless the seller tries and contacts me. When he sent me the text, I basically ignored him and have since. I still have all the texts saved in Google Voice.
by jiannichan
Tue May 06, 2014 10:00 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Question on private sale of firearm refund
Replies: 57
Views: 7151

Re: Question on private sale of firearm refund

An update...nothing has happened as of yet.. The last time I heard from the buyer was April 17th saying, "I guess you're not going to do the right thing. I'll be filing a lawsuit on Friday."
by jiannichan
Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:58 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Question on private sale of firearm refund
Replies: 57
Views: 7151

Re: Question on private sale of firearm refund

gigag04 wrote:Does he even have your info to sue you?


He could've shot three people with the rifle....or swapped the components out with garbage.
He only has my cell phone number, which is a company phone. Buyer only knows my first name.

I disclosed everything in the for sale ad minus the barrel nut damage he is talking about, because I didn't see any when I inspected the rifle before I posted it up. I left out any minor scratches or marks because they could have been spotted during inspection.
by jiannichan
Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:43 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Question on private sale of firearm refund
Replies: 57
Views: 7151

Re: Question on private sale of firearm refund

jmra wrote:This is why I only trade/sell with members of this forum. I don't even look at TGT anymore.
I've bought/sold/traded numerous guns on TGT and this is the first time I've had problems. I'll probably never list anything on there again.
AndyC wrote:
jiannichan wrote:...and said that the barrel was drilled through for the front sight post.
Ask him for pictures - I'm curious whether he's referring to the gas-port or the taper-pins holding the gas-block to the barrel.
It was an A2 sight that was on there and I am sure he is referring to the taper-pins. His text "The barrel was drilled through for the pins on the gas block."
That leads me to believe that he is not very familiar with the AR platform if he doesn't know the rifle comes that way and thinks that makes the rifle hazardous.

AndyC wrote:Might want to make him an offer in writing that he take it to a store who has a gunsmith knowledgeable in AR15s and have it examined by them, with a report to go to both of you.

A. If it's found to be faulty, that you will do X, Y or Z (whatever you decide to offer - refund his money, have the gun repaired, etc)

B. If there's nothing materially wrong with the rifle, he has to suck it up.

Doing something like that would show your good faith in court, if it comes to that - and if the gunsmith tells him there's nothing wrong with the rifle, he has to just suck it up or, if he decides to proceed with legal action, look like an idiot in court (because you'd have the gunsmith's report too).
The thing is, the rifle was fired a few weeks ago at the range perfectly fine (200 flawless rounds). When you say faulty, do you mean where the rifle will fail to function? He said himself he doesn't doubt the rifle functions perfectly fine. The things he is complaining about has no affect to how it functions and are cosmetic. What if the damages that a gunsmith find were stuff that he caused, like the barrel nut while he was disassembling it and trying to pin it on me? He stated in a text " some of the holes where the barrel wrench is placed to tighten the barrel nut". I didn't see any damage like that prior to selling the rifle to him, since the free float was covering a majority of the nut.
Another text, "There are several blemishes on the outside of the rifle that were not documented."

There were numerous replies on FB that said he may have buyers remorse or his wife is irritated at him for the purchase and telling him to return it, which was funny but could be true.
jbarn wrote:Tell him to pound sand.
Given the amount of time he has been in possession of the rifle, I already told him I am not refunding him.
by jiannichan
Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:37 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Question on private sale of firearm refund
Replies: 57
Views: 7151

Re: Question on private sale of firearm refund

Also, I received a text from the buyer this afternoon stating that he will be filing a lawsuit against me on Friday.
by jiannichan
Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:34 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Question on private sale of firearm refund
Replies: 57
Views: 7151

Question on private sale of firearm refund

Here is the question...
I sold an AR to someone Monday afternoon around 3:30pm. The person sent me a text 8 hrs later around 11pm asking for a refund because he said there are issues with the AR (like blemishes and marks that he wasn't aware of and and an issue with the front sight base) The FSB, as I stated in the ad was cut down. He's also saying the barrel nut is damaged (I don't know about any damage to it since I didn't install the free float rail that is on there) and said that the barrel was drilled through for the front sight post. Before anyone says anything about signing a bill of sale, I did not supply one because I forgot it at home. I thought I had it in the case with the gun. I sent the guy a text replying that I am not giving a refund explaining that I disclosed everything about the gun in the ad that I am aware of to my knowledge, also telling him he should have inspected the gun prior to handing over the money.

So far this is what the guy said...

"You know I did but dumb me for taking some ones listing at face value and for trusting you when you said the only thing wrong was the small ding on the bottom of the for end. You knowingly sold me an ad with potentially hazardous flaws. If you don't want to do the right thing that's fine I will see you in court. And by the way I've sent your info to Texas gun trader for review of possible deletion pending the out come of this conversaition. I didn't find out about most of the flaws on the rifle until after I started breaking it down. I just want my money back Sir. The same way you would if the situations were reversed. The difference is I would give it to you with out all of this having to take place. You can have your rifle and all that it came with in the same condition it was in when you sold it."

What is everyone's thoughts, and what would you have done? I also posed this question on the ar-15 GOA FB page and it was pretty much unanimous of no refund.
I do not plan on giving the guy a refund because I have no idea what has been done to the gun. I do not want to spend any money to have a gunsmith look it over to make sure nothing is wrong. The main thing is I do not want to risk getting a gun back that may have been used in a crime. If he asked for a refund an hour or so after buying it, I would have.

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