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steve817 wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
Carrying in bars will never pass, regardless how it's packaged or creative one is in coming up with sound bites. I'm not willing to risk the entire bill trying to convince Senators, Representatives and the general public that alcohol and guns do mix, in spite of what every responsible gun owner has said for a hundred years.

Come on guys; we're talking about a sea change in Texas law and you're upset because you won't be able to carry in a bar?

Chas.

Nope, I don't go to them.

I really don't have a need for it in nightclubs and such. My only concern is when on the motorcycle and we meet at one of those "icehouses" that everybody is stopping to get food and a drink, usually water, soda, or tea. The reason we aren't drinking is because alcohol and motorcycles mixes as bad as alcohol and firearms. That, honestly, would be the only time. Currently my wife and I both go, she will go in and grab the food and drinks and we just sit outside, but with her applying for license that option is going away.

I will agree with Charles, I won't whine over the huge differences we get over something that is small and insignificant in comparison. It is definitely nowhere close to a deal breaker for me.

TexasCajun wrote:I like it. Especially the idea of turning the question around -

The question should not be “why would you need a handgun,” it should be “is there a compelling reason to exclude handguns?”

I do have one question and one point to add.

The question: If there is already a prohibition against being intoxicated while carrying concealed, why continue to exclued concealed carry in 51% establishments?

And my one point: Requiring a CHL holder to disarm before entering a prohibited place actually creates more of a public safety issue. When my gun is holstered & concealed, the chance of a negligent discharge is virtually non-existant. However, when I have to unconceal and unholster my weapon to put it in secure storage, the risk of a negligent discharge goes up significantly due to the very nature of having to handle the weapon. Then re-arming after leaving the prohibited place again increases the ND risk. In these circumstances the ND risk is even higher because the weapon-handling is usually taking place in cramped & seated position within a car. Even re-holstering a micro-compact 9mm pistol IWB puts the CHL'er in an awkward, contorting position.

Not to mention some of those places are a feeding trough for those that want to burglarize vehicles. If we go out it is usually to go dancing, karaoke, or listen to live bands. I would much rather have it with me to be sure that trip to and from the car is also not "unprotected". I have a console safe in my vehicle, an alarm and the plates in the doors to prevent as much as I can, but: "A lock is only good enough to keep an honest man out" We also ride motorcycles and frequent places that are 51% that we only are stopping to grab lunch or visit or meet others on a group ride. Securing it on a motorcycle is a royal pain. We hardly ever drink and if we do it is to get one and "nurse" it to not appear unsociable.

I definitely would like to see the sporting event part removed because we go to the Rodeo every year and I hate having to disarm and take that march "cross country" or ride the train from other parking options to get to the stadium and back to my vehicle whilst leaving it there. Late at night coming back is not a comforting walk.

C-dub wrote: I'm not sure how that would work with #5 since they don't allow anyone past the security checkpoint without a boarding pass and they are not going to allow me to fly with my concealed weapon.

Actually they do allow you past without a boarding pass if you are picking up/dropping off a minor and some other circumstances.