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OldSchool wrote:The smoking discussion here hits us hard, in many ways. For me, a breath of tobacco smoke is an adventure in sinus and throat pain, as I am very allergic to it (think about your first puff of a cigarette, then think about going through that every time you smoked). Go somewhere else?.

Exactly, go somewhere else. I'm not a smoker, but the government just trampled all over the rights of that private business owner. As far as I'm concerned that just opened an opportunity to start a restaurant that doesn't allow smoking as a new competitive business. That USED to be the American way now it seems to be find something that offends me so that I can sue for big bucks and notoriety. There are even some places within the cities that banned them they put a collection can out for smoker's to donate and the establishment uses the money to pay the city fine because it is cheaper than the loss of revenue. http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/200 ... bans_N.htm

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I agree though that it should only be to allowed in places currently banned by the government. Private property is private property. Fortunately most of my friends are "gun friendly" I think training on our own is in itself a responsibility we "took on" when we applied and received that license. For most of us there is no need to force it.

I would go through even more training if it would allow me to carry on a plane and in other states. I travel a lot for work and hate having to put my firearm where it is more easily stolen than in my truck if I go to a state with reciprocity, and that is saying something. Plus if something happened while in route I might be able to help stop it. I stress the might because carrying on the plane introduces a whole slew of nightmares with the extra sheeples which we shall not get into on this thread. I'm just commenting that I am all for more training and practice, especially if it allows me to carry in more places, just not necessarily as a means to acquire a right that we should have without a permit in the first place. It ALL comes down to personal responsibility, or lack thereof.