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by DaveT
Wed May 31, 2006 6:39 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What do you not like about CHL & carrying?
Replies: 48
Views: 9885

Diode wrote:
propellerhead wrote:Crap. I stop by Carswell AFB (now NAS JRB Fort Worth) on occasion. CCW would sure put a damper on unplanned trips.
Mount you a lock box in your car, then on a "Spur of a Moment"
change you can lock it up.

:grin:
Still not legal.

One could argue "who would know ?" but it's still taking a big gamble. Just by entering the base, one gives up the right to deny a search, a posted sign clearly states that by entering the base, you are giving consent to search.

A security alert, or even something like a traffic accident could really ruin your day if you had a gun on base... in a lockbox or not.

I sent an e-mail to the base Public Affairs office today, asking detailed questions regarding this matter. They read it after lunch and are forwarding it to the appropriate person to answer me. I'll probably hear back from them tomorrow, will let y'all know what I find out.
by DaveT
Wed May 31, 2006 12:33 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What do you not like about CHL & carrying?
Replies: 48
Views: 9885

propellerhead wrote:I thought you could bring guns onto the base. What about those who live on base? I remember the range on base would open up for off duty base personnel on Tuesday late afternoon. A buddy of mine worked with the CATM folks at the range.

PS. I was stationed at Dyess AFB in 91-92, then I got out and worked for Boeing on base. :)
Those stationed on base are required to have their personal guns stored in the gun room at the Air Police Headquarters. They check them in and out as needed. An Air Force Master Sergeant took the CHL class with me and even though he was one of the top enlisted men in the Air Police Squadron at Dyess, he had to check his personal guns in and out too.

On the Dyess website, there was a full page two weeks ago, giving all the information for the big air show with the Thunderbirds that weekend. Among all the directions to those attending, the site stated very clearly that no weapons were allowed on base, and that paragraph was followed by the statement that "this includes all CHL holders".

Pretty strict rules, and the possibility of facing a federal magistrate means they are to obeyed.
by DaveT
Tue May 30, 2006 11:01 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: What do you not like about CHL & carrying?
Replies: 48
Views: 9885

Excellent thread, congrats to Prop in his getting started and for his interest.

About the only thing I don't like is the inconvenience of not being able to carry on a military base. I go to Dyess Air Force Base in Abilene a lot for grocery shopping, haircut, etc. It is not an option to take the gun off and leave it in the car.... there can not be a gun in the car, period... or risk facing federal charges. Since Dyess is a B-1 bomber base, they tend to take security matters rather seriously there. Just by entering the base, you are automatically giving your consent to both personal and vehicle searches. If the air policeman at the gate suspects anything, your car is directed to the side of the road and a search is conducted. At that point, you are actually inside the front gate, so you would be in a world of hurt if there was a weapon in the car...... regardless of CHL status.

My 21 year old son (who received his CHL recently) lives in Abilene, so after making the 75 mile drive down there, we have to go all the way across town so I can leave my gun at his place. Then, with a lot of groceries that don't need to be in the Texas summer heat too long, we have to drive all the way back across town to retreive my gun before we can head home.

Kinda inconvenient, but that's the way it is....... :???:

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