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by flintknapper
Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:36 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Amish School Shooting
Replies: 48
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S&W6946 wrote:Flintnapper, I seem to remember in one of those school shootings a teacher or vice principal ran to his truck and retrieved his pistol and used it to hold the gunman until police arrived.

That is correct. It was the last one listed, it occurred in Pearl, Miss.

The vice principal had to run about a 1/4 mile to his vehicle to retrieve his pistol. The very instant he confronted the gunman, the shooting stopped and he put down his weapon.
by flintknapper
Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:39 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Amish School Shooting
Replies: 48
Views: 7126

KBCraig wrote:Terrible event.

The Amish are pacifists. I understand pacifism on a personal level, and I understand opposing government initiating force. But since pacifism is intended for the benefit of the attacker (to persuade him and others that initiating violence is wrong), how could it possibly work when the attacker is crazy and just looking for easy victims?

For the sake of such an attacker's soul, first you have to stop the attack. Refusing to defend oneself does not deter someone intent on killing you, especially when his intentions have no sane basis.

Kevin

Yup!

A list of some fatal shootings at U.S. schools in recent years:


• Oct. 2, 2006: A gunman took about a dozen girls hostage, killing at least three of them, at a one-room Amish schoolhouse in Pennsylvania's Lancaster County, police said. The shooter was among the dead, and a number of people were injured.

• Sept. 29, 2006: 15-year-old Eric Hainstock brought two guns to a school in rural Cazenovia, Wis., and fatally shot the principal, a day after the principal gave him a disciplinary warning for having tobacco on school grounds, police said.

• Sept. 27, 2006: Duane Morrison, 53, took six girls hostage at Platte Canyon High School in Bailey, Colo. Morrison, sexually assaulting them and using them as human shields for hours before fatally shooting one girl and killing himself.

• Aug. 24, 2006: Christopher Williams, 27, went to an elementary school in Essex, Vermont, looking for his ex-girlfriend, a teacher. He couldn't find her and fatally shot one teacher and wounded another, police said. Williams also killed his ex-girlfriend's mother, according to authorities. He shot himself twice in the head after the rampage and was arrested.

• March 21, 2005: Sixteen-year-old Jeff Weise shot and killed five schoolmates, a teacher and an unarmed guard at a high school on the Red Lake Indian Reservation in Minnesota before taking his own life. Weise had earlier killed his grandfather and his grandfather's companion.

• Nov. 22, 2004: Sixteen-year-old Desmond Keels is accused of fatally shooting one student and wounding three others outside Strawberry Mansion High in Philadelphia. The attack apparently was over a $50 debt in a rap contest. Keels is set to stand trial on murder charges later this month.

• April 24, 2003: 14-year-old James Sheets shot and killed the principal in the crowded cafeteria of a junior high school in south-central Pennsylvania, before killing himself.

• May 26, 2000: 13-year-old Nathaniel Brazill killed his English teacher on the last day of classes in Lake Worth, Fla., after the teacher refused to let him talk with two girls in his classroom. He was convicted of second-degree murder and is serving a 28-year sentence.

• April 20, 1999: Students Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 23 before killing themselves at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo.

• May 21, 1998: Two teenagers were killed and more than 20 people hurt when a teenage boy opened fire at a high school in Springfield, Ore., after killing his parents. Kip Kinkel, 17, was sentenced to nearly 112 years in prison.

• May 19, 1998: Three days before his graduation, an honor student opened fire at a high school in Fayetteville, Tenn., killing a classmate who was dating his ex-girlfriend. Jacob Davis, 18, was sentenced to life in prison.

• March 24, 1998: Two boys, ages 11 and 13, fired on their Jonesboro, Ark., middle school from nearby woods, killing four girls and a teacher and wounding 10 others. Both boys were later convicted of murder and can be held until age 21.

• Dec. 1, 1997: Three students were killed and five wounded at a high school in West Paducah, Ky. Michael Carneal, then 14, later pleaded guilty but mentally ill to murder and is serving life in prison.

• Oct. 1, 1997: Sixteen-year-old Luke Woodham of Pearl, Miss., fatally shot two students and wounded seven others after stabbing his mother to death. He was sentenced the following year to three life sentences.


The common denominator: No one there equipped to stop them!

The damage is done before authorities can arrive.

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