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by flintknapper
Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:43 am
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Topic: Off duty trouble...
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Re: Off duty trouble...

casingpoint wrote:She got off lighter than Ida Mae Delaney, the cleaning lady killed by an intoxicated off duty HPD cop in the 80's. The cop and three others LEO's, who had just left a bar, chased Delaney down the SW freeway in a fit of drunken road rage, where she stopped hoping to find refuge at a Texas DOT construction site in the early a.m. hours. She was able to shoot the cop before she died, and best I can recall, shot first. He survived his wound to the stomach.

IMO, it is grossly unfair to try and draw parallels to this event, (given the small amount of information we have).

As you know, the "media" has a bad habit of printing that which is "sensational", often times omitting certain elements or facts. These days, I take all first reports with a 2 pound "grain of salt".

Waiting to see.
by flintknapper
Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:17 pm
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Topic: Off duty trouble...
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Re: Off duty trouble...

frankie_the_yankee wrote:
Keith B wrote:Here is another story http://www.fox6.com/news/local/story.as ... d&rss=tick. The DA is urging everyone to just sit back and let the investigation run its course.

In the article, it states the driver window was shattered on the off-duty officers car and his wife who is a San Diego dispatcher was with him. There are some interesting things about the woman listed in this article, including she was facing a pending drunk driving charge. She is claiming memory lapses of the event and was not happy about being forced to take a sobriety test when the off-duty officer didn't have to. She was also driving on a suspended license according to police.
Some of that info may be relevant to whether the shooting was justified. Or not.

Remember, when using force or deadly force, the reasonableness of one's actions are judged based upon what you knew at the time. I do not think the cop knew about the other person's DWI status, suspended license, etc. when he employed deadly force.

But on the other hand, a person with those types of traffic issues hanging over them may well have more general behavior problems that can create situations that other, more well behaved people, will avoid.

In my 57 years, no one, cop or private citizen, has "actually tried" to shoot me - yet. Maybe it's because I'm a nice guy, hey?
Fixed it for ya. :mrgreen: ;-)
by flintknapper
Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:02 pm
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Topic: Off duty trouble...
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Views: 8620

Re: Off duty trouble...

Keith B wrote:
htxred wrote:
carlson1 wrote:Boy I am glad we can trust the media report. I can't believe he was not judge and hung on the spot :roll: Srothstein could be right. Maybe there is ANOTHER side.
well if there IS another side, feel free to post it once you come across the info, but your sarcasm isn't really necessary here bro. don't act like there is no such thing as a "bad cop"...
I think you have misinterpreted carlson and srothstein's post. They are not indicating that there are not bad cops in the world, just that there IS another side to the story. People shouldn't act as if what is reported by the media is totally accurate and shouldn't be challenged.

Having been involved in internal investigations before, both in a police department and corporate America, I can tell you they frequently will not comment on things purposely to prevent any influence and pre-judgment of the case. The pre-judgment is exactly what you are doing just from what you are reading. The truth will come out.

So, we all need to let the case have its due process and not jump to conclusions without knowing the whole story.

+1

:iagree:

The voice of reason.

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