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45 4 life wrote:Oops my mistake Frankie the Yankee not you flintknapper.

45 4 life wrote:Well flintknapper when I first saw your recommendation about carry on private property I to thought it was legal to do so now. Just goes to show you this forum will keep you on your toes!

Skipper5 wrote:

flintknapper wrote:My solemn promise to everyone:

I really, truly, honestly, absolutely, positively, am going to stay out of this one.

yup.... no talking with me on this one....came from open carry AZ. Been there, done that.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

45 4 life wrote:. . . There is apparently many LEO's who would rather see who is armed when responding to calls.

This should serve as a warning!

As I've mentioned before, the opposition to the CHL bills always tried to get the bill amended to allow for only open carry. They did so believing the backlash would be sufficient to get the law repealed. I don't believe the law would have been repealed, but I do believe we would never have gotten TPC §30.06 passed, we would not have gotten reciprocity reform passed, we would not have passed SB501 (rendering 30.06 unenforceable on gov't property), and the list of statutory off-limits locations would have grown.

I strongly believe that outcry from customers would prompt businesses to post "no-gun" signs (now 30.06 signs) on far more businesses than the few that have them now. CHLs make up a very small percentage of the population, so it would be an easy choice for the business owner trying to protect and grow his business. For corporate America, like Home Depot, Lowe's, Starbucks, etc., the choice would be even easier. If they post no-gun signs, the alienate at most 1% to 2% of potential customers. Don't post signs and risk alienating 98% of your customers.
I can see the convenience of open carry during Texas' hot summers. I am drawn philosophically to letting people have a choice to open carry or carry concealed. I just fear the backlash will be far more brutal than open carry proponents believe. Comparing open carry states to Texas is misguided, in my view. Texas hasn't allowed widespread open carry since Reconstruction and people here are simply not accustomed to seeing handguns carried openly without a badge showing also. That's why most LEOs agencies require officers to either conceal, or have their badge showing also.

I've asked a what-if question before and I can't get straight answers, but I'll try again in a separate post, so I don't hijack this one.

Chas.

WildBill wrote:

flintknapper wrote:Hard to imagine anything "new" to share at this juncture.

Everything is new to the newbie. A year ago I had no idea that people were so passionate about this subject. Now, I've pretty much have heard all I want to.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

KBCraig wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:The thing I find almost amusing is when a new member starts a thread on an old topic and it quickly degenerates to the same two or three people making the same arguments they've made in many many prior posts and threads. If they haven't convinced each other with a multitude of prior posts, what do they think they are going to accomplish.

When new threads are started about dead horse subjects, the people who are new might be reading about the topic for the first time. When I weigh in on one of those tired subjects, it's not because I'm trying to convince people who have disagreed with me before; I'm trying to let newcomers see that there is at least one differing point of view.

Kevin

I understand, but I'm also convinced that most new members aren't going to follow 10 pages of posts stating and restating the same thing. I suspect that after about the second iteration of the same argument, the majority of folks are going to tune out and that's unfortunate because they may miss a "new" point being made.
Chas.

frankie_the_yankee wrote:In my experience, "smart and stupid" show little or no correlation with someone knowing the difference between "right and wrong."

While many criminals, especially those prone to criminal violence, may be stupid, it's usually not because they don't know the difference between right and wrong. It's more often because they simply don't care.

anygunanywhere wrote:

Moonpie wrote:I'm gonna play devils advocate for a minute(just for a minute mind you)....................

We ALL know there are a LOT of Doofi(doofuss plural) out there.
Do we really want doofi running around with a pistola on their hip?

The second amendment makes no distinction. Stupid doesn't negate first amendment rights although we wish it would.

Anygun