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srothstein wrote: I will be the first to admit that this appears to be an abuse of the discretion the officer has under the law, but Texas law explicitly makes traffic violations crimes (class C misdemeanors).

This right here!

I disagree. There is something WRONG with planning on killing someone no matter who you are.

Your plan should be to stop the threat.

Just because you are a LEO does not give you a license to kill, speed, assault, etc. . . anyone. If that is the attitude you have you will not be an LEO long.

I am done with this thread.


Edited:

Bad folks in every bunch. LEO's are no exception, especially if they have the attitude of killing everyone they stop. No traffic stop is routine and they should be ready for anything that might take place, but exiting the patrol car with the attitude of I am going to kill you is extreme.

All most makes you not want to teach children that the police are their friends. I am an ex State LEO in my other life and my youngest son is a LEO in an East Texas town. I ride out with him ever 45 days. I have never seen the attitude that has been shown here in this thread from any of those fine young men in that department.

I am PRO Police, but it makes me have second thoughts.

It appears Government entity's have a lot of people brained washed into the fact that we are to give up our RIGHTS all in the name of SAFETY.

srothstein wrote:If you do lock the car and the officer asks for the keys, clearly state that you do not give consent for the search and are handing him the keys simply to obey his orders. Anything else would come under that caution about not arguing with officers on the side of the street.

Excellent Advice.

knotquiteawake wrote:I like this idea in theory... until I pictured it with my wife still inside
If he asks why I could just say "Oh, thats for your protection officer."

When you stepped out of your vehicle you should have turned it off, took the keys with you, and locked your doors.

If he ask why did you do that just as friendly as you can say, "it is a habit."