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by carlson1
Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:53 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Unlicensed open carry in Texas: a proposal
Replies: 150
Views: 18560

Re: Unlicensed open carry in Texas: a proposal

frankie_the_yankee wrote:
carlson1 wrote: I am not for sure what you know the average criminal does not already know, but all an officer has to do is pick up his microphone and say, "I need a 10-43 and white male John Doe birthday 01-24-54." And with minutes it is given to them. In many circumstances when they are working something that appears to be ongoing they can have that information placed in their boxes for later pick up. Again, the CCH has EVERYTHING on it including "bad" arrest.
So now cops are going to run criminal history reports on everyone they stop? I'll bet dispatch and the street cops themselves will just love that idea.
Thats right. I ran about 90% of the people I stopped. That is how many Parolee's are picked up. It takes no longer 10-43 than it does a 10-27/29.
by carlson1
Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:51 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Unlicensed open carry in Texas: a proposal
Replies: 150
Views: 18560

Re: Unlicensed open carry in Texas: a proposal

frankie_the_yankee wrote:
carlson1 wrote:
When a cop runs your license, he is not running a NICS check. If you don't have any open wants or warrants, the cop won't know anything about your priors.
In Texas he can run a Criminal History Check in just a matter of seconds. Most officers I know when the run the DL then run a Criminal History. It has ALL ARREST even if you were not convicted.
I cannot respond fully to this without putting personal info out on the net that should (and must) remain private.

But I will say that I have some direct (i.e. 1st hand) knowledge of my own as to standard procedures, what info cops get when they run you, etc.

And criminal history data isn't normally on the menu.

Not only that, but arrest data by itself, without info as to the final disposition, can be problematic. All arrests are not necessarily for good reason. Some people arrested turn out to be innocent. A CHL could be arrested for murder, for instance, and them later on no billed as the shooting in question was determined by the GJ to have been justified.

Then there's also the fact that there is info that might be avaliable from NICS such as data from other states, mental data, etc. that won't show up on a TX criminal history check.

What a cop can get on the roadside isn't anywhere near the equivalent to the background check we go through to get our CHL's.
I am not for sure what you know the average criminal does not already know, but all an officer has to do is pick up his microphone and say, "I need a 10-43 and white male John Doe birthday 01-24-54." And with minutes it is given to them. In many circumstances when they are working something that appears to be ongoing they can have that information placed in their boxes for later pick up. Again, the CCH has EVERYTHING on it including "bad" arrest.
by carlson1
Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:41 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Unlicensed open carry in Texas: a proposal
Replies: 150
Views: 18560

Re: Unlicensed open carry in Texas: a proposal

[quote=]When a cop runs your license, he is not running a NICS check. If you don't have any open wants or warrants, the cop won't know anything about your priors.[/quote]

In Texas he can run a Criminal History Check in just a matter of seconds. Most officers I know when the run the DL then run a Criminal History. It has ALL ARREST even if you were not convicted.
by carlson1
Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:00 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Unlicensed open carry in Texas: a proposal
Replies: 150
Views: 18560

Re: Unlicensed open carry in Texas: a proposal

I am an OPEN CARRY advocate. I have come to conclusion from the numerous debates on just this forum it would be virtually impossible to prove the 2A to legislatures when the people who are supposed to agree can't agree. :banghead: The 2A is not just about squirrel hunting and concealed carry.

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