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RASmith12241986 wrote:Hey Carlson1,

How would you define a modernist? Just curious!

Once again temptation follows me.
I believe a modernist is anyone who does not hold to the fundamentals of the faith which are:
1. The Virgin Birth.
2. The Substitutionary Death Of Jesus.
3. The Bodily Resurrection of our Saviour.
4. The Verbal Inspiration of the KING JAMES BIBLE.
5. The Second Coming of Christ.

And the answer to your other question is YES I am saved. I was Born Again by (1) seeing myself as a sinner, (2) realizing the penalty of sin as hell, (3) realzing Christ paid the price for my sin in FULL by His Death, Burial, And Resurrection, and (4) realizing my only hope was Jesus Christ. Placing all my Faith and Trust in Christ on October 30, 1986.

I guess we are off topic. I tried not to post, but the post keep coming. I hope this will be my last post, but for now I would like to say there are only two streams of texts and Bibles coming down through the centuries. (1)There is the pure stream that the KJV is based on, which is the text of the Bible believers for the past 1900 years. It is the text of the Waldensians, Anabaptists, and the other ancestors of true Baptists. It was the text of Luther and the Reformation. (2) There is the polluted stream that all the modern versions are based upon. It is the text of Origen, Constantine, Eusebius, the Westcott & Hort, and all of the apostates today. I have never met a modernist yet that said that the King James was the best or the most accurate. They all prefer something else.
None of the popular versions are translated from the Textus Receptus, and this includes the New King James Version. A careful reading of the Preface will reveal that it is not based entirely on the same texts that underly the King James Version. By the way the King James Bible is the only one that does not have a copyright. I wonder why that is? Could it be God said to publish it. Psalms 68:11 “The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.� I guess I am just simple enough to Trust God!

gigag04 wrote:As for study sheets I can offer tons of pages that show why the KJV is NOT the best translation...but honestly it doesn't really matter in the scope of this board.-nick

As for study sheets you feel free to email anything you THINK you have that the King James is not the Word of God.
Facts:
1. The oldest form of the Bible discovered to date are the 92 papyra, dated 180AD and 220AD and 85% of the text agrees word-for-word with the 1611 King James Bible. Only 15% agree with the other Bible versions.
2. Of the 5,200 Greek manuscripts that exist today, 99% of the text agrees word-for-word with the 1611 King James Bible. Only 1% agree with the other Bible versions.
3. Of all the Onicals (which is text written in block capital letters), 97% of the text agrees word-for-word with the 1611 King James Bible. Only 3% agree with the other Bible versions.
4. Of all the 2,000 Cursives (text written later in history when people began to write in long-hand), 99% of the text agrees word-for-word with the 1611 King James Bible. Only 1% agree with the other Bible versions.
5. Of all the 2,000 Lexicons, 100% of the text agrees word-for-word with the 1611 King James Bible. Only 0% agree with the other Bible versions.

"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times." (Psalm 12:6)

As any student of English Bible history knows, the Authorized Version of 1611 was not the first Bible to be translated into English. But even though hundreds of complete Bibles, New Testaments, and Scripture portions have been translated into English since 1611, it is obvious that the Authorized Version is the last English Bible; that is, the last English Bible that God "authorized."

I will accept what Jesus said in Matthew 12 (whale) from the KJV which was translated from the Textus Receptus which was not corrupted as Wescott and Hyott.
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/fbns-index/versfbns.htm

We can take it as far as you would like. The King James Bible is preserved for English speaking people. If you would like to email me at pastor@fbcirving.com I will send you a study sheet and you will see that half of the Bible verses are gone in the NIV. Just example try out these:
Daniel 3:25 who was in the fire?
Matthew 18:11 why did Jesus come to earth?
I Samuel 17:50 and II Samuel 21:19 who did kill Goliath?
Acts 8:37 what did the Ethiopian eunuch beleive?
Be sure you have a KJV because some of this is not in your NIV (Not Inspired Version)
God Bless looking forward to your email

CaptDave wrote:

I was just going by the article. I am dead sure not a pathalogist, but I would say anything is possible. Just like the whale who swallowed Jonah.

BTW: It was a FISH that swallowed Jonah.... Let's keep our biblical quotes straight here.

I am not a pathalogist, but I am a Preacher I have it right. . .Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. KJV