Re: Why don't they follow the law?
by Charles L. Cotton on Tue May 20, 2008 6:02 pm
I've been gone for 8 days to the NRA committee meetings, the Annual Meeting and several other things, so I've had very little time to get on the forum.
Anyone reading this thread who hasn't seen the thread on DPS delays, what's being done, the necessity of a legislative fix, etc. will be missing a lot of information.
Since no one took the bait and answered my question about DPS issuing CHL's without completing a full background check, I'll go ahead and give the reasons why we don't/shouldn't want that done. If a Texas CHL is issued before a complete background check, then most states will cancel their reciprocity agreements with Texas. Plus, we will lose our NICS exemption.
Computer checks cannot be done for delinquent state taxes and other state fees, child support, or Texas guaranteed school loans. That has to be done at the county level. This is why these requirements should be repealed; plus they violate the Texas Constitution since they are money provisions unrelated to crime prevention.
As for writing Senators and Representatives, please look at the thread on DPS delays. Chairman Joe Driver has already had a meeting with DPS and Gov. Perry sent a representative to the meeting. A reporting schedule was established and Chairman Driver will be getting weekly updates. Getting other Representatives and/or Senators involved will not help at this point. There is nothing that can be done without a legislative fix and that isn't happening until 2009.
Here is something to consider. If this is handled poorly, the legislative change might be to extend the statutory time limit to 90 to 120 days, not fix the delay problems and fix the typo that gives DPS up to 90 days on an initial application instead of 60 days. I say this because DPS is currently trying to work under the watchful eye of Chairman Driver and if they get even more pressure, the response may be "the statutory time limit is too short and it should be increased." Don't think for a second this is not a distinct possibility. That's why my proposed changes greatly decrease DPS workload, thus removing any justification for extending the processing time.
BTW, Texas cannot access the NICS database, unless it agrees to become the POC (Point of Contact) for all firearm sales in Texas and DPS isn't about to agree to that. I have something going on that as well, with the help of NRA's Office of General Counsel. (It's nice to be on the NRA Legal Affairs Committee! ) This will be part of the entire legislative package.
I am as frustrated about the DPS delays as everyone else and if you'll look at some of my posts prior to the DPS meeting, you'll see I've been openly critical of DPS processing. Let's not let this frustration result in a "fix" that legalizes what DPS is going now; i.e. taking over 100 days to process applications.
Chas.
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- Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:04 am
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Re: Applications spike for Texas concealed handgun permits
I can't express it any better than Mr. Cotton.
- Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:19 am
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Re: Applications spike for Texas concealed handgun permits
The CHL background check is NOT the same as done with NICS.
- Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:59 pm
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Re: Applications spike for Texas concealed handgun permits
To bypass NICS requires that a background check be completed at least every five years.
The first time Texas issues a license without a completed background check, Texas would no longer meet that requirement.
The first time Texas issues a license without a completed background check, Texas would no longer meet that requirement.
- Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:55 pm
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Re: Applications spike for Texas concealed handgun permits
Sorry, but I don't want to give up a convenience because you're in a hurry!
- Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:50 pm
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Re: Applications spike for Texas concealed handgun permits
Wouldn't this invalidate our ability to use our CHL to bypass NICS?srothstein wrote:What do they do if there is not a full return done on the background check in that time? I believe Neal's option 2 is exactly what should be done. If they cannot deny a license in the time period, it should be issued.
I have read that here in the past.
- Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:47 pm
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Re: Applications spike for Texas concealed handgun permits
I couldn't have said it better. As a matter of fact, I've been trying. I've got a response that I've been working that is guaranteed to make everyone mad that is waiting for their license. Probably never post it.
But it comes down to there ain't nothing you can do about it so quit whining!
The problem is budgeting and it can't be fixed until 2009.
I only take issue with one small point.
CHL licensing is supposed to be revenue neutral. So we shouldn't have to stand in line with schools, police, hospitals, or anyone else for funds.
There has to be a way to link funding to applications processed on a more timely basis.
But it comes down to there ain't nothing you can do about it so quit whining!
The problem is budgeting and it can't be fixed until 2009.
I only take issue with one small point.
CHL licensing is supposed to be revenue neutral. So we shouldn't have to stand in line with schools, police, hospitals, or anyone else for funds.
There has to be a way to link funding to applications processed on a more timely basis.