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dale blanker wrote:

chuck j wrote:You can keep your statistics , there are no true statistics just agendas . I can come up with an unlimited amount of graphs , pie charts or anything you want to 'prove' my point . Naw , no stats for me .

Hmm, I bet you don't believe in climate change either(?). Evolution? Generally speaking it seems like we have to have some measurement to figure out if something can or is being improved. Every stat based on real data deserves some respect - agenda or not.

Someone said stats show we don't have a gun problem - maybe not, yet most agree that crazies should not have access to guns. What about people on the no-fly list? Should they be allowed to easily obtain a gun? [Let's assume the no-fly list is based on good data even though it no doubt can also be improved.]

Someone also noted that there are many causes of death so don't bother with trying to reduce deaths caused by a nut case with a gun. I believe there are serious attempts to reduce all causes of illness and death. Why not be serious about keeping guns from mentally ill? One argument is that anyone can get a gun no matter how deranged so why bother? Really???

How about requiring a class like we all had for our CHL to buy a gun? Oh wait, driver training doesn't stop car accidents so never mind.

Fabs80 wrote:

Pawpaw wrote:Here is the true impact of the "gun problem".

There are 312 million people in the US.

According to the CDC, there are roughly 32,000 deaths a year in the US and declining from Gun Violence.

This means you have a 0.00010256410256410300% chance of death by gun. (...)

America DOES NOT have a gun problem.

So sad to read such things here. We agree that there are hundreds or thousands (!!!) of deaths which could be avoided - parents, children or grand-parents. And you honestly want to argue that there is no problem?!? Every single one of them is a tragedy on its own!

I have lived in the US for quite some time - and reading that makes me very sad. I am afraid you guys have a VERY SERIOUS gun problem...