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by Beiruty
Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:30 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: MISTRIAL/CONVICTION: Ft. Hood soldier's case to carry AR15
Replies: 135
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Re: MISTRIAL/CONVICTION: Ft. Hood soldier's case to carry AR

I recommed to lock it up. There is nothing worth discussing after the conviction. If the appeal is successful then it is time for another thread.
by Beiruty
Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:38 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: MISTRIAL/CONVICTION: Ft. Hood soldier's case to carry AR15
Replies: 135
Views: 11964

Re: MISTRIAL in Ft. Hood soldier's case for carrying AR15

What I would like to see in Texas and specifically due to detaining of OC is to amend the disorderly conduct by displaying a firearm or repeal it all together. Pointing a firearm unjustifiably at someone is already considered an assault. Moreover, the legislator can introduce a language to clarify when an OC could be detained/disarmed.
by Beiruty
Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:28 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: MISTRIAL/CONVICTION: Ft. Hood soldier's case to carry AR15
Replies: 135
Views: 11964

Re: MISTRIAL in Ft. Hood soldier's case for carrying AR15

EEllis wrote:
Beiruty wrote:The defendant would appeal as not to loose his CHL. The crux of the issue is that the defendant never committed a crime before the stop and disarming him violates his 4thA. How the defendant would know what LEO duty he was interfering with?
I think you are making it too complicated. If he appeals challenging the RS for the stop that's all he needs. Legally speaking it does not matter if Grisham committed a crime or not. It only matters if the officer had RS for a stop. If he had RS then he can legally disarm Grisham regardless as to any crime having been committed. A police officer doesn't have to be omnipotent, just have RS.
Good, As I am not a legal expert in detention/arrest business of LEOs. So we agree, that we need to see what is the RS was.
I can legally walk with a chain-saw out of Home Depot. Is there RS to be stopped and detained, if someone called me in and said; "There is a man with a chain-saw leaving Home Depot. Go check him out"
by Beiruty
Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:11 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: MISTRIAL/CONVICTION: Ft. Hood soldier's case to carry AR15
Replies: 135
Views: 11964

Re: MISTRIAL in Ft. Hood soldier's case for carrying AR15

The defendant would appeal as not to loose his CHL. The crux of the issue is that the defendant never committed a crime before the stop and disarming him violates his 4thA. How the defendant would know what LEO duty he was interfering with?

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