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by Grammy
Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:41 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Long Arm of the government-ATF
Replies: 79
Views: 13155

Re: Long Arm of the government-ATF

skub wrote:Fox article on this case
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/09/te ... d-illegal/

Focus of the article is the straw purchaser - the middle man- who was an illegal immigrant himself, but was not prosecuted, nor does he appear to have been deported.
Thank you for posting this link.
Jim
by Grammy
Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:35 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Long Arm of the government-ATF
Replies: 79
Views: 13155

Re: Long Arm of the government-ATF

VoiceofReason wrote:One of the main reasons I like this web site is that members research stories like this rather than just take them as fact. The members maintain a high degree of respect for others plus Charles and the moderators do a good job of controlling radicals and troublemakers.

These things maintain a degree of integrity that is found on very few discussion boards. :tiphat:
I in now way meant to post an untrue event, I feel I have "egg on my face". I should have did more research. This won't happen again. I origingally saw the topic on GlockTalk, no excuses though.
Jim :patriot:
by Grammy
Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:03 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Long Arm of the government-ATF
Replies: 79
Views: 13155

Re: Long Arm of the government-ATF

If the story turns out to be bogus, shame on me for not doing more research before posting. I have seen it on no less than 10 other "gun" sites. As stated in the begining I could not find out more details, I should have waited to post, my bad.

By the way I hope it turns out not to be a factual event.
Jim

PS If anyone finds out more information, be it true or false please post here...
by Grammy
Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:44 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Long Arm of the government-ATF
Replies: 79
Views: 13155

Re: Long Arm of the government-ATF

Darwood wrote:Has anyone been able to confirm this story? It seems that it only comes from a single source.
http://www.590klbj.com/news/Story.aspx?id=1272077

Gun dealer sentenced to 6-months for selling weapons to a undocumented immigrant.
Newsroom
8/31/2010


One of the gun dealers of Austin's Gun Show is sentenced to 6-months at a federal work camp for selling a weapon to an undocumented immigrant. Independent firearms dealer-Paul Copeland says for years he has commonly sold handguns and antique weapons with no problems and prior to his arrest the illegal immigrant showed him what appeared to be a valid Texas driver’s license. In January 2009, the ATF along with the Austin police department set up a sting operation targeting independent firearms dealers that were selling weapons to illegal immigrants, both inside the show and outside the Austin’s Gun Show’s parking lot. Shortly after the series of arrests, the regularly scheduled weapons-event was asked to move from the North Austin location. Investigators with the Austin police department believed many of the guns sold to the undocumented immigrants at the show were headed back across the Texas-Mexico border. “I guess you need ask them <Latinos> for their documentation too; if the police aren’t going to profile why should the common citizen have to” says Copeland. He says none of the undocumented immigrants that were asked to testify against him were arrested by federal agents. Austin's Federal Judge Sam Sparks sentenced Copeland to spend the next 6-months at a federal work camp followed by 2-years of probation.
by Grammy
Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:45 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Long Arm of the government-ATF
Replies: 79
Views: 13155

Re: Long Arm of the government-ATF

gemini wrote:shame on the prosecutor
shame on the BATF
shame on APD
shame on Judge Sparks
This is scary stuff folks.
This man was failed by the system from the begining of the whole incident, it is very scary. Strange I could not find more information ...
Jim
by Grammy
Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:13 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Long Arm of the government-ATF
Replies: 79
Views: 13155

Re: Long Arm of the government-ATF

chasfm11 wrote:Very sad but not at all surprising.

If you look at the rational that AFT provided, it appears to be 100% racial profiling. So people with a Germanic accent couldn't be here illegally? In light of the Fed suing AZ over SB1070 - which they claim will lead to racial profiling, it is another fine example how the many tentacles of a bloated government have no way to work together to produce reasonable policy.

I hope the poor guy is able to win on appeal.
I agree, I have done some searching and have not come up with any information different than the original link.
Jim

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