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man, dropping on the highway is nothing. after reading about the XD torture test.....i knew i had to have one.

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No, i never said i wanted a 380. I have a couple of 380s already. The Kel-Tec P3AT and the Bersa 380. I prefer the Bersa because it it much more reliable but the Kel-tec can't be beat for concealability. I contemplated picking up the Bersa CC version but I really want a larger caliber if I'm gonna carry that size of gun.

I think I've made up my mind on the XD40SC. I really like the safety features and loaded chamber indicators on it. Plus everyone seems to have positive things to say about the XDs.

Liberty, so what do you recommend as a safe CCW? Just curious because I went to the gun show yesterday and I'm still torn. Honestly, the gun that felt best in my hand was the Taurus PT-140. I'm not a huge fan of Taurus and have heard of issues with their Millenium series so I'm thinking I need to keep looking.

All your thoughts/ideas are appreciated I've grown up around guns my entire life. However, the idea of carrying a gun for self-defense is relatively new to me, last year or so. I've always been taught to treat every gun as if it were loaded, check and double check the chamber of any gun you are handed, don't point a gun at something you don't intend to shoot, and don't put your finger on the trigger unless you intend to shoot. So I'm going to have to get accustomed to carrying loaded. To do this though, I need to be more comfortable with my carry weapon. Frankly, I'm just not comfortable with the Kel-tec. I've been racking my brain about it and I simply have no comfort level with the P3AT. The "safety" of a long trigger pull or the reliablity of the weapon. So I think I will start looking for a new gun with some additional safety features!! Possibly the XDSC, 2000SK, or PPS.

Thanks for all your advice. I drive the Jeep because I enjoy having the doors and top off. I'm not gonna put them on every night because you have no idea what a pain it is. So to avoid that type of situation in the future I will 1) Be moving to suburbia in the next month (not related to this incident) 2) Will not drive in sketchy areas at night with my Jeep configured this way


As far as the eye contact goes....I don't think it would have been a good idea in this situation. I think it would have only antagonized them. There were 4 to 5 of them and 1 of me. So even if it was Stonecold Steve Austin in the Jeep I don't think they would have cared.

First off, lemme say hello. I'm a long time lurker, first time poster. I've enjoyed all the info I've gotten from this site.

So yesterday I had to work late until about 12:45am. I live close to downtown Dallas so am going south on 75. I exit Mockingbird as usual and the first thought that pops into my head is the possibilty of a homeless person being on the corner.

Normally, this would not bother me. BUT, I drive a Jeep Wrangler. I had the top down and the doors off. Anyone that drives a Wrangler understands how vulnerable you are with the top and doors off. Vulnerable to the elements, wind, insects, and bad guys. Homeless people can be mentally ill sometimes so I'm wary of them when I'm exposed. So I pull up to the light and to my left is a guy on a bike with his girlfriend. Behind them is a car full of highschool/college kids. To my right are 2 scary looking guys. In the middle of the day this would not have scared me as much, but I've seen enough episodes of Cops and First 48 to know that Dallas is dangerous at night. I have my Kel-Tec P3At wedged between my seat and the console. I felt very nervous so I slowly reach down and load one in the chamber. I never carry one in the chamber because I am so paranoid about an accidental discharge. This is probably my mistake, but I still haven't grown comfortable with the idea of carrying loaded. Especially relying on the long trigger pull as the only safety. Anyway, regardless....

So I put one in the chamber, place it in my cup holder and pray for the light to turn. In the meantime, the car of highschool/college kids have lowered all their windows and started heckling the couple next to me. Whistling and yelling. I don't turn and look for fear that they'll start on me.

Well, light turns green and I turn left along with the car of punks. The scary guys on the right of me go straight so they're no longer an issue. As I'm making the turn I see a kid throw his plastic bottle at me. Misses and hits the back of my jeep. I still try to avoid eye contact and act as if I dont even notice. At this point I'm sweating and really nervous. I'm trying to drive slower so they'll just pass me, but they make it a point to stay right with me, heckling me the entire time. Calling me all kinds of names, etc. So I speed up to get away from them and they pull in behind me right on my tail. Honking and flashing, I think they were trying to get me to pull over into the parking lot on our right and start something. So I keep driving and eventually they do turn into the empty parking lot. I continue home, unload my gun, and do my best to sleep.

Even this morning I'm still a little shaken up. I've never been so afraid for my life. They didnt physically harm me or anything so I did not feel justified in exposing my weapon. Maybe it's all the Cops and First 48 I've been watching, but I am scared to try driving at night with the top and doors off now. I'm also reconsidering my carrying style of not keeping one in the chamber. I feel like if something were to have happened last night, my weapon would have been worthless had I not loaded one. So I'm thinking I may start looking at a new CCW that has some safety features that I'm comfortable enough with to start carrying loaded (besides a long trigger pull). Any suggestions?