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by Purplehood
Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:45 pm
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Iraq War Veteran Holds Burglary Suspect at Gunpoint
Replies: 15
Views: 1451

Re: Iraq War Veteran Holds Burglary Suspect at Gunpoint

speedsix wrote:
Keith B wrote:I still disagree. Even as a special forces person and trained, unless you are there in the home at the time, a call to the police should be the FIRST thing that is done. The police can respond with multiple units in case there are multiple BG's. We are not police, and walking into a potentially deadly situation when you are not at risk of serious injury or death in the first place, even if you are trained, is just a bad idea.

Now, calling police on the way, then arriving at the home and waiting OUTSIDE, then stopping the guy as he came out before police arrive would be a different thing. But, going in to clear the house/apartment yourself is just dumb idea, trained or not.

...we're gonna disagree on this for sure...it's my house, whether or not my family's in there...I know the house better, I know what's in there that he might have gotten ahold of...I (and, for SURE this guy in the story) have plenty of training and experience...on at least 6 occasions where I have called police on a burglar alarm going off at a residence ONE unit with ONE officer showed up...on three of them, he NEVER entered/cleared the house...in Dallas it's been 20-30 mins. and the alarm had already reset...much quicker in smaller cities...to me, sitting outside while he did whatever he wanted to do inside to and with anyone who was home just isn't gonna happen...the highly efficient SWAT teams we see on TV haven't shown to be nearly as effective in many home invasion/hostage situations in the Dallas area...if a man wants to protect his own property, he has both the right and authority to do so...and calling him (me) dumb just doesn't make a ripple in the pool...you handle yours and I'll handle mine...the outcome's the "pudding"...I've taken 3 and 4 suspects out of burglaries several times with no help till I had them cuffed...not by magnificent strength or prowess...but by common sense...betcha I can do it again...if a man wants to sit outside and wait...his choice...I'd rather be "dumb"...
I guess it would depend on how upset I was about the whole-thing. How many "what-ifs" came into play.

Is a loved-one inside?
Do I think there is a good chance whoever is inside can get away with theft/destruction of my property?
Am I armed or is it one of the rare occasions that I am not carrying for whatever reason?

My tendency is to definitely avoid entering. But that is my call sitting here in my chair without the Adrenaline pumping.
by Purplehood
Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:40 am
Forum: The Crime Blotter
Topic: Iraq War Veteran Holds Burglary Suspect at Gunpoint
Replies: 15
Views: 1451

Re: Iraq War Veteran Holds Burglary Suspect at Gunpoint

Keith B wrote:I still disagree. Even as a special forces person and trained, unless you are there in the home at the time, a call to the police should be the FIRST thing that is done. The police can respond with multiple units in case there are multiple BG's. We are not police, and walking into a potentially deadly situation when you are not at risk of serious injury or death in the first place, even if you are trained, is just a bad idea.

Now, calling police on the way, then arriving at the home and waiting OUTSIDE, then stopping the guy as he came out before police arrive would be a different thing. But, going in to clear the house/apartment yourself is just dumb idea, trained or not.
:iagree:

When we were trained for house-to-house entry (Urban Combat), we never went in alone. That is not part of the training.

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