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by Purplehood
Tue May 25, 2010 9:32 am
Forum: Concealed Carry on College Campuses
Topic: Campus carry poll
Replies: 33
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Re: Campus carry poll

Salty1 wrote:My vote is for legal "concealed" carry everywhere. If open carry ever became law here in Texas I would need to adjust my vote. I do not want to have an open carry discussion in this thread, just do not see any logic in having an open display of firearms on a school campus.
I tend to agree. The "ideal" solution in my mind would be OC everywhere, with CC in restricted areas such as school premises and the like.

Keep in mind that I really consider that a pipe-dream, and that is unfortunate.
by Purplehood
Wed May 12, 2010 3:27 pm
Forum: Concealed Carry on College Campuses
Topic: Campus carry poll
Replies: 33
Views: 5786

Re: Campus carry poll

frazzled wrote:
austinrealtor wrote:
frazzled wrote:I vote #3.

1. Its more relevant to the issue of CHLers as there's more there. Columbine to the contrary, public schools are safer than your average college campus.

2. I'm much more ambivalent about public schools. It definitely clouds the issue a bit to me.
Curious .....

Why is the "public school" (and I assume you mean K-12 grades since you're OK with college campus carry) issue clouded for you and why does the supposed relative safety of one venue mean it should be excluded from legal carry? A police department charity drive with 25 armed police officers handing out goodies to school children who bring in canned goods for the needy in a grocery store parking lot is even safer than your average elementary school, but I'm legally allowed to carry there.
1. I am less keen on a bunch of adults around my kids with firearms, even CHLers. Simple math. I am concerned the chance of one of the little demon seed can get a ahold of it is higher than the chances the adult is going to defend my kids from a BG.
This is balanced by the efficacy of a school employee being there to stop a Columbine cold.
2. I've also seen one too many CHLers that shouldn't have a CHL to begin with to feel safe with them around my kids. Odds are low but its a math thing again. I view most of the posters on this board as more up to speed as it were, but I've been at the range with too many yahoos who achieved CHL status to be comfortable in this context.

I should posit this by, as far as my kids are concerned I don't recognize anyone else having rights, when it comes to the safety of my kids. CHLs are for adults to protect themselves. I'll be honest and state I don't care if you are protected or not when it statistically increases the chances of harm to my children.

3. Again I'll not I'm very ambivalent on this one. As such I'd keep it to college campus carry where everyone involved is an adult.
I see your point Frazzled. I too have a child in public school. But I wander around the house and all around town in his company while carrying. No mishaps. I also agree with your take on how many yahoos are out there carrying CHLs and having IQ's lower than the caliber of their firearms. But I cannot let that emasculate my ability to protect myself and my loved ones. So I would respectfully have to disagree with campus restrictions of any sort.
by Purplehood
Wed May 12, 2010 3:00 pm
Forum: Concealed Carry on College Campuses
Topic: Campus carry poll
Replies: 33
Views: 5786

Re: Campus carry poll

I voted for all or nothing. It is my opinion that a school environment is no different than any other place. We are either responsible carriers of firearms or we are not. The locale makes no difference.
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If it comes right down to it we shouldn't even have 30.06 signs. We carry concealed, we keep them concealed. If for some reason an owner of private property becomes aware that someone is carrying, then they can give that someone verbal notice. Otherwise, they don't need to know.
This brings me right back to the topic. Carrying at schools. No difference.

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