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by Excaliber
Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:48 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Police Officers should not draw their guns on a suspect with a knife
Replies: 10
Views: 3922

Re: Police Officers should not draw their guns on a suspect with a knife

G.A. Heath wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:45 pm A few months ago we had a suspect shot and killed by a Deputy, after the deputy was stabbed. Suspect was from Georgia IIRC.
Different situations require different responses. If the answer to the question of whether there is any option other than deadly force for protecting innocent life in a given circumstance and the answer is no, then deadly force is the required response.

A suspect who suddenly draws a knife and charges the officer from close range is much different from one where an officer is responding to a call of a distraught individual holding a knife.

Many situations are not so black and white, and they require on the spot judgment calls with decisions on what level of risk is acceptable. How good that judgment was is ultimately determined only by the final outcome, and all such calls have to be based on very little if any information beyond what can be physically seen at the time.

Welcome to the world of police work where making the right decision in each and every case is required many times over the course of a career.
by Excaliber
Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:39 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Police Officers should not draw their guns on a suspect with a knife
Replies: 10
Views: 3922

Re: Police Officers should not draw their guns on a suspect with a knife

Although the article presents the chief's thoughts with pretty muddy reasoning, I suspect what the chief is trying to get at is officers should get away from "leading with the gun" and use deadly force only as a last resort. It's the difference between "can I shoot him" thinking instead of asking oneself if there's any other reasonable way to protect innocent life. If that' s where the chief is going, I would agree with him. Leading with the gun is also often a major element in the cases where people who are doing nothing wrong are shot by police in their own homes.

I have personally confronted knife armed individuals who were threatening to harm officers or themselves and resolved the situations without gunfire, as have many of the officers I worked with. If no one other than the knife armed individual is in immediate danger, there's no immediate need to shoot. Moving citizens away, increasing distance and placing barriers between the subject and the officer so a sudden charge can't get inside the officer's OODA loop is not insanity, it's just good tactics. It provides time to assess the situation, communicate with the suspect, and understand his motivations and intentions so appropriate tactics can be used to get the knife out of his hands and him into custody without anyone getting hurt.

Not only is this the compassionate thing to do for these folks who are more often psychologically disturbed than criminally inclined, but it saves tons of paperwork, doesn't give local agitators a reason to burn the neighborhood down, minimizes the likelihood of threats against the officer and his family, and is much easier on the officer's psyche and conscience.

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