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by Excaliber
Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:27 pm
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Topic: My Water Line Burst
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Re: My Water Line Burst

imkopaka wrote:
Excaliber wrote:
In the FAQ's from the website you provided, it states that PEX is not approved for outdoor applications.
I've read from other places that underground usage is fine. The reasoning is that UV exposure causes rapid deterioration, but if it's underground that's not an issue.

That makes sense!
by Excaliber
Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:21 am
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Topic: My Water Line Burst
Replies: 51
Views: 11378

Re: My Water Line Burst

NotRPB wrote:good looking Temporary patch,

I had a similar situation years ago when I lived in Pasadena. I had lots of those patches under my Pasadena house I discovered when I got around to replacing my line there (that house was built in the late 1930s/early 40s I think) Later I replaced the line with polybutylene (which didn't freeze, but now everyone uses PEX, which is way better)
A continuous roll of one piece of plastic pipe (3/4" is good and easy to connect to meter without a reducer if you have 3/4 galvenized now) will be "faster" than the corroded galvenized pipe and fittings every 20 feet it replaces, feeling like more water pressure. Dad said the shower hurt him (the city the next week replaced their 2" main with a 6" main on our street and it really did hurt)

Anyway TIP: if/when you replace the pipe with plastic (1 roll of PEX and 2 fittings, for meter and house connections- not much more work than you did today except more digging which could be done over time), lay a wire in the trench so it's easy to locate in the future if you need to (with metal detector etc)
... your plumber costs a lot to dig trenches ( I did that in the 1970s, sold plumbing supplies wholesale across Texas and later hired on with a plumbing company and dug trenches for a plumbing company [quit the digging job after 2 weeks])

I don't know the distance from water meter to house, but $70 or so for a 100' of the 3/4 pipe, plus 2 fittings PEX to galvanized... the tough part for me was digging a little every day

PEX may be cheaper elsewhere, I just randomly Googled it, PEX uses the Sharkbite/ProBite fittings
https://www.supplyhouse.com/AquaPEX-Tubing-517000

FAQs on PEX http://www.sharkbite.com/resources/faqs/pex-tubing/

More PEX stuff ( I learned about PEX about a month after redoing LOTS of copper with soldering etc, I called a plumber, they wanted $3,000 and he slipped and said he'd do it with PEX for $3,000 ,,, I soldered the copper myself, but I'm done soldering ... when for $100 I could do it myself with PEX ) ... https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... U4iILmHzNQ
In the FAQ's from the website you provided, it states that PEX is not approved for outdoor applications.
by Excaliber
Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:20 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: My Water Line Burst
Replies: 51
Views: 11378

Re: My Water Line Burst

NotRPB wrote:good looking Temporary patch,

I had a similar situation years ago when I lived in Pasadena. I had lots of those patches under my Pasadena house I discovered when I got around to replacing my line there (that house was built in the late 1930s/early 40s I think) Later I replaced the line with polybutylene (which didn't freeze, but now everyone uses PEX, which is way better)
A continuous roll of one piece of plastic pipe (3/4" is good and easy to connect to meter without a reducer if you have 3/4 galvenized now) will be "faster" than the corroded galvenized pipe and fittings every 20 feet it replaces, feeling like more water pressure. Dad said the shower hurt him (the city the next week replaced their 2" main with a 6" main on our street and it really did hurt)

Anyway TIP: if/when you replace the pipe with plastic (1 roll of PEX and 2 fittings, for meter and house connections- not much more work than you did today except more digging which could be done over time), lay a wire in the trench so it's easy to locate in the future if you need to (with metal detector etc)
... your plumber costs a lot to dig trenches ( I did that in the 1970s, sold plumbing supplies wholesale across Texas and later hired on with a plumbing company and dug trenches for a plumbing company [quit the digging job after 2 weeks])

I don't know the distance from water meter to house, but $70 or so for a 100' of the 3/4 pipe, plus 2 fittings PEX to galvanized... the tough part for me was digging a little every day

PEX may be cheaper elsewhere, I just randomly Googled it, PEX uses the Sharkbite/ProBite fittings
https://www.supplyhouse.com/AquaPEX-Tubing-517000

FAQs on PEX http://www.sharkbite.com/resources/faqs/pex-tubing/

More PEX stuff ( I learned about PEX about a month after redoing LOTS of copper with soldering etc, I called a plumber, they wanted $3,000 and he slipped and said he'd do it with PEX for $3,000 ,,, I soldered the copper myself, but I'm done soldering ... when for $100 I could do it myself with PEX ) ... https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... U4iILmHzNQ
In the FAQ's from the website you provided, it states that PEX is not approved for outdoor applications.
by Excaliber
Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:34 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: My Water Line Burst
Replies: 51
Views: 11378

Re: My Water Line Burst

2farnorth wrote:Did someone encase cast pipe in concrete. mortar, etc... maybe a previous "epoxy repair"?
How far is it from the meter to the house? I'm afraid there are other sections of that pipe in similar condition. You may need to replace a lot of pipe.

edit;It is iron pipe. Now whether is galvanized or black iron I can't tell
I very much doubt galvanized pipe would deteriorate to the extent shown in the pictures. My bet is that you've got unprotected iron pipe.

It is highly likely your entire pipe run from the meter to the house looks like the section you dug up. Unfortunately, if you don't bite the bullet and replace the entire line, you'll very likely be doing this again and again. I suspect you will find you also don't have a choice - the corroded pipe won't form a good seal with any of the repair methods discussed here so far. They'll only work on dimensionally standard and structurally sound material.
by Excaliber
Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:01 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: My Water Line Burst
Replies: 51
Views: 11378

Re: My Water Line Burst

imkopaka wrote:
swilkes wrote:Shark bite fitting. And pex A lil expensive but easy to do
Not sure what you just said :lol: could you elaborate a little?
Shark bites are push in pipe repair connectors. Check out Home Depot's selection here.

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