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patterson wrote:doesn't the military use the da/sa platform such as the M9 as a secondary weapon

Yes, but that's likely to change with their recently announced quest for a new pistol to replace the M9.

patterson wrote:so are revolvers not intended to be shot well

You may be missing my point.

The DA/SA transition between the first and second shots takes considerable work to master to the point where both shots hit close to point of aim when used in a defensive encounter.

Revolvers are DA only, so there is no transition between the first and second shots. This consistent operation is not hard to master, even though the weight of the pull is greater than an SA auto. Revolver trigger operation is also typically much smoother than the ones on DA/SA autos, which are usually uneven and have lots of creep and overtravel.

DA/SA guns absolutely can be shot well - with lots of extra effort and training that many folks are not willing to put in. I saw hundreds of people go through that process. Most of them eventually mastered these guns, but it took a lot more work than it would have with either DA only or SA only designs.

My point is that the DA/ SA design itself creates one more significant and in my opinion unnecessary obstacle for a shooter to overcome on the road to becoming combat effective. It was designed to be the answer to avoiding cocked and locked carry before the better striker fired trigger systems were developed. While there are still plenty of such guns out there, you'll note that they are not dominant in the LE or defensive marketplace and there's a reason for that.

Of course, this is only my opinion - which is worth exactly what you paid for it

carlson1 wrote:

gigag04 wrote:

patterson wrote:I like a handgun with heft to it, I started out shooting revolvers

Sounds like the Sig wins out, for you, then. I can't stand SA/DA pistols, and I hate pulling that first shot, but Sig and many others have sold millions of handguns with that design so many people do enjoy it.

I have not yet accomplished the DA/SA pistol yet. Yet it seems that the first shot is always pulled.

DA/SA guns are not designed to be shot well. They're designed for overcoming the safety concerns of people who don't know anything about gun safety but do the buying for large organizations. Overcoming those objections is what they do best.

Years ago I had to carry a DA/SA on duty and was responsible for training 200 officers to use it on the street. The trigger action can be smoothed and with enough practice one can become competent with the system. I got reasonably good with it, but that's sort of like saying I got good at firing the gun upside down because that's what was required.

After I left that agency, I never bought one of those things again.