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by Excaliber
Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:35 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Upstart group pushes harder than NRA - NY Times
Replies: 31
Views: 3339

Re: Upstart group pushes harder than NRA - NY Times

Skiprr wrote:
baldeagle wrote: That's not how the liberals do it. They stand up tons of orgs name "American Freedom Foundation" and "Citizens For Better Government", etc., etc., all designed to undermine our liberty.
There is a fundamental difference between the anti-gun organizations and the NRA.

Pareto's Law: Over 80% of the anti-gun lobby money comes from fewer than 20% of its membership. I'd personally estimate the split to be closer to 98% to 2% with the likes of Soros and Bloomberg funding their own disillusioned image of "gun control."

With the NRA, 80% or more of its funding comes from individual members, like you and me.
That is a huge and critical difference.

If the views of Bloomberg, Soros, etc. were half as popular as they tell us they are, their organizations would have members and member money. It's telling that they don't.
by Excaliber
Mon Apr 08, 2013 4:56 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Upstart group pushes harder than NRA - NY Times
Replies: 31
Views: 3339

Re: Upstart group pushes harder than NRA - NY Times

Jumping Frog wrote:
JustMe wrote:I just don't believe that you should be knocking someone else down in an attempt to build yourself up. If GOA is so good--then they need to be telling us what is so good about them---not what is so bad about NRA
That is my issue.

I believe there is a place in the 2nd Amendment rights movement for an organization that comes across as fire-breathing, radical, take-no-prisoners, and accept-no-compromises. In contrast, it makes the NRA look like the responsible adult in the room, and the NRA can always take the approach with a politician, "you can be reasonable and deal with me, or you can have the GOA after your . . . ".

However, the cynic in me also notes that the GOA has raised AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY over the years by demonizing the NRA instead of demonizing the anti-gun forces of Satan. That irritates me. We need to stay focused on the common enemy, not raising money by tearing down other pro-2A organizations.
I understand the pluses and minuses of the GOA, and I have not agreed with some of their activity in the past when they have criticized the NRA.

My view at this point is that we're in the fight of our lives, and any organization that is not a front for the other side and is willing to stand with us is worthy of support.

The NRA is and always will be the primary bastion of firearms liberty. As such, it gets the vast majority of my financial support. However, a single organization standing in opposition to the marxist crowd is too easy to characterize and demonize in the media to the point that its credibility is seriously damaged with folks who could be swayed either way. Multiple organizations are more difficult to deal with, can take other strategic tacks, and add depth and volume to our voice.
by Excaliber
Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:43 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Upstart group pushes harder than NRA - NY Times
Replies: 31
Views: 3339

Re: Upstart group pushes harder than NRA - NY Times

They're doing good work and are worth supporting.

I joined today.

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